my issue is that businesses are supposed to follow the guild lines, not lie and cheat their way around them...and when they get caught there isn't a punitive penalty(jail or fines so high you wouldn't risk it)
Paying HC for the year > penalty for circumventing the law so you don't have to pay HC.
How are you supposed to compete against businesses that aren't "playing by the rules"?
If you don't want to play by the rules, sell or move your business.
This has already devolved into a Poli Board topic, which is why I don't usually click on that board.
Whiny liberalism may sound great in theory. Just keep in mind that a certain segment of the population needs to be out there taking risks, investing their own money, and creating jobs to keep the government cheese flowing.
Not that you would ever start your own company, but if you do please report back on whether any of your views have changed. You can pool your resources, beg for financing, and put in the tremendous amount of work it takes to get a new company off the ground. There's a good chance that you will still fail, or maybe just end up with some sort of moderate income.
But if in fact you do manage to successfully implement your dream, create jobs, and start making money, guess whose money that is? Yours? Nope. It belongs to the employees and the government.
Do you understand that we need people rolling up their sleeves, taking intelligent risks, and creating value to keep this country going? More importantly and related to the Money Board, what are the risks and rewards associated with using your money to start or expand a business versus other investment vehicles? You would argue that the reward should be none or minimal, despite the significant risk. Huh?
Please take your liberal crap to the Poli Board. I enjoy reading Money Talk because it is mostly rational and not polluted with that nonsense. Everyone else, sorry for the political rant.