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How Airlines Might Gouge You in the Future: Personalized Pricing

Posted on 6/17/15 at 1:55 pm
Posted by euphemus
Member since Mar 2014
536 posts
Posted on 6/17/15 at 1:55 pm
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Imagine a time in the distant future when you and two of your friends are invited to a wedding in Myrtle Beach, S.C. You log on to your frequent flier account with AnyJet Airlines, and seeing that you have a Greenwich, Conn., zip code, the airline assumes that you’re wealthy and charges you $398 for your fare (unfortunately, despite your tony zip code, you’re actually a modestly paid schoolteacher). At the same time, your friend and fellow wedding invitee who lives in a nearby, less-affluent zip code is also booking the same flight to the same wedding; she’s quoted a lower fare of $310. And when the third member of your trio logs on to purchase his ticket, the airline sees that he’s a frequent business traveler who’s already taken 15 flights this year. It assumes that he’s an easy sale and socks him with a $410 fare.

Welcome to the world of “personalized airfares” or “personalized pricing,” whereby the amount you pay for a flight is no longer just a number based on impersonal factors such as when and where you’re flying or when you booked your ticket. In this possible future, your airfare could be based on who you are, and each fare would be different for everyone — even people booking the same flight at the same time.


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How would personalized pricing work?

Last year, the U.S. Department of Transportation granted approval for the airline industry to update its computer reservation system through an initiative known as New Distribution Capability (NDC). According to the IATA, a big backer of NDC, the new program will allow airlines and travel agencies to communicate with each other more effectively. As Travel Pulse noted, booking flights will be easier because consumers will be able to do things like select their seats and pay their baggage fees directly through online travel agents such as Orbitz (currently, such sites allow you only to book your flight; if you want additional services like seat selection, you have to be routed to the airline’s website).

But with that convenience comes a cost, say critics. They fear NDC could allow airlines to gather and share personal information about you — like, say, your birthday, seat preferences, frequent flier status, and zip code — and use that data to tailor a price just for you. The airlines’ goal under this scenario would be simple: find out which passengers are willing and able to pay more for a ticket, and charge them more than others.



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You better believe first degree price discrimination is coming, what with all the personal data of consumers already out there for companies to analyze. It was assumed that the only real first degree price discrimination in practice was Ivy League admissions and financial aid, but big data analytics seems to be changing that...quickly.
This post was edited on 6/17/15 at 2:05 pm
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35481 posts
Posted on 6/17/15 at 2:11 pm to
Well, then I'm fricked.
Posted by Coach Guidry
Member since Nov 2007
2333 posts
Posted on 6/17/15 at 2:17 pm to
5k tickets now.
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
37694 posts
Posted on 6/17/15 at 2:27 pm to
VPN my man. They will think I live in Chiang Mai, Thailand.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 6/17/15 at 3:55 pm to
They've already been caught doing this, or versions of this.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
78912 posts
Posted on 6/17/15 at 4:18 pm to
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They've already been caught doing this, or versions of this.


My gf's flight out of Houston last week was delayed and although they had seats available on the next flight out, they "saved" them so that they could gouge the person who comes to the ticket counter to buy a ticket.
Posted by PlanoPrivateer
Frisco, TX
Member since Jan 2004
2788 posts
Posted on 6/17/15 at 4:41 pm to
I swear I've checked airline ticket prices for a trip before and the following has happened. I would log in and check a few airports and airlines. When I would go back a several minutes or maybe an hour later the ticket price would be higher than what I was quoted earlier. I think some of these airlines use cookies or something to track multiple log ins and raise the price if I come back to book a flight I had checked on earlier. I'm probably wrong but it just seems to work out that way sometimes.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71339 posts
Posted on 6/17/15 at 4:47 pm to
quote:

I swear I've checked airline ticket prices for a trip before and the following has happened. I would log in and check a few airports and airlines. When I would go back a several minutes or maybe an hour later the ticket price would be higher than what I was quoted earlier. I think some of these airlines use cookies or something to track multiple log ins and raise the price if I come back to book a flight I had checked on earlier. I'm probably wrong but it just seems to work out that way sometimes.



Some more seats were probably taken, and when the supply goes down and demand stays constant...
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
12721 posts
Posted on 6/17/15 at 4:47 pm to
i wish they would personalize by how much someone weighs. i sat next to a lady on a flight that was at least 250 and she seriously took up a few inches of my already limited space.
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
38725 posts
Posted on 6/17/15 at 4:55 pm to
I didn't see anything in there about whites paying more. They are missing the boat...
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 6/17/15 at 5:05 pm to
quote:

My gf's flight out of Houston last week was delayed and although they had seats available on the next flight out, they "saved" them so that they could gouge the person who comes to the ticket counter to buy a ticket.


Well that's a bit of misunderstanding.

Next flight out has 50 available seats. And at least all 50 were occupied. Airline will still sell because they figure they can get someone to volunteer their spot for an amount less than the newly purchased ticket.

Your GF can't move to the flight because it's fully occupied. They aren't going to simply bump passengers into oversold flights without concern for managing revenue. This is why stand-by exists.
Posted by TigerSaints318
Shreveport
Member since Dec 2009
1794 posts
Posted on 6/17/15 at 5:05 pm to
quote:

I think some of these airlines use cookies or something to track multiple log ins and raise the price if I come back to book a flight I had checked on earlier


They do. Always clear cookies when going back to book flights.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39553 posts
Posted on 6/17/15 at 5:43 pm to
Ya, in a somewhat similar situation, they aren't going to upgrade/bump you up if they think you'll pay first.

For example, my Lufthansa flight got canceled so I got moved to United but no seat assignment. I was on an award economy(gasp) ticket. Go to United lounge to see what seat I can get. Guy gives me the skinny "you'll be bumped up to Economy Plus, they're just hoping people will pay first and fill but it won't."

Got my free bump up. I had no ill feelings they have a duty to maximize profit.
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15043 posts
Posted on 6/17/15 at 5:52 pm to
Wasn't there some fuss about a hotel or airline charging more to people who logged on from a Mac?

Anyway when people talk about big data, this is the end result - companies are going to use this data ruthlessly to separate you from your money. It's the nature of the beast.
Posted by BACONisMEATcandy
Member since Dec 2007
46643 posts
Posted on 6/17/15 at 8:54 pm to
I've signed out of my Delta account several times and got lower prices. I keep my home address as Louisiana on my Delta profile so could work in my favor
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