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Homebuying...fresh out of college

Posted on 9/15/09 at 11:25 pm
Posted by OTalter
Member since Sep 2009
50 posts
Posted on 9/15/09 at 11:25 pm
So I basically have little to no credit, and am graduating in December. I got a great job offer in Texas, and am considering buying a home. How does a person like me get a home loan???

Also, what is a realistic loan amount that I could expect, i.e. what multiple of my salary? (I could post the offer but I don't want to seem like a tool)

Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 9/15/09 at 11:33 pm to
Talk to a loan officer. There's no harm in trying. Right now it's a very tough environment to try to borrow in though, don't be surprised if you don't qualify. In 2005 it wouldn't have been a problem.
Posted by LSUDad
Still on the move
Member since May 2004
58853 posts
Posted on 9/15/09 at 11:51 pm to
quote:

I got a great job offer in Texas, and am considering buying a home.


Rent for the first 6 months. Look into subdivisions, check out driving time, check with people you work with on locations, etc. Then buy.
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 9/16/09 at 7:16 am to
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Rent for the first 6 months. Look into subdivisions, check out driving time, check with people you work with on locations, etc. Then buy.


I agree.

Also, in the mean time get a few credit cards to build your credit.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 9/16/09 at 8:30 am to
quote:

Rent for the first 6 months. Look into subdivisions, check out driving time, check with people you work with on locations, etc. Then buy.


Agreed, unless you already know the area pretty well. There's no rush, prices aren't exactly skyrocketing in DFW.

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Also, in the mean time get a few credit cards to build your credit.


Well, get one or two. It'll take a few years to really build things up even if you pay all the bills on time yadda yadda but might as well get started.
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
50355 posts
Posted on 9/16/09 at 9:11 am to
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So I basically have little to no credit, and am graduating in December. I got a great job offer in Texas, and am considering buying a home.


First of all i would rent for at least a year for several reasons.

1) You have no idea where you want to live or any knowledge of the area you will be buying.

2) You probably don't have enough saved up for a down payment and i would suggest having a decent amount of savings before getting a house

3) You are young and you may move around a bit at first, i think buying a house if you plan on moving anytime sooner than 5 years is probably not a good idea unless you plan on renovating it.


BTW these all come from my personal frick ups so...
This post was edited on 9/16/09 at 9:12 am
Posted by ManiaTiger
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
97 posts
Posted on 9/16/09 at 9:19 am to
I am in Houston and still ton of foreclosures going on so I would tell you as others did to rent (6 month lease) and get to know the area and what you are looking for - more importantly what you can afford. I don't think you need to rush into a house by any means and expect the home credit to be extended in some form. Location will play a role in how much home you can buy of course - in Houston the closer you want to Downtown the more you will pay for less space.

Once you get your position you can see what your take home pay is and from there establish how much home you can actually afford. Biggest mistake I see young people make is they buy to much home and therefore you become "house broke" Think of your first house as a starter and you can always upgrade down the road when you need the space.

Also, you can just goole mortage calculator and they will give you a good idea of how much a mortgage payment would be (most won't take into account home ins./property tax/homeowners dues

A loan officer/mortgage guy could also help you with this. I have used a guy in Houston to help my clients get a quick jump in credit to get ready for a home (credit analyst) - they might be something you need to look into

Good Luck
Posted by Dr Rosenrosen
Member since May 2006
3339 posts
Posted on 9/16/09 at 9:48 am to
Suburban Houston has the best value in real estate I have ever seen. You can get a 2700 sf house in a great neighborhood for $150K. It's ridiculous.
This post was edited on 9/16/09 at 9:49 am
Posted by BaylorTiger
Member since Nov 2006
2083 posts
Posted on 9/16/09 at 10:07 am to
I have several friends with "great jobs" some are married some are not...


BUT ALL OF THEM SAVED FOR AT LEAST A YEAR

quote:

2) You probably don't have enough saved up for a down payment and i would suggest having a decent amount of savings before getting a house



I understand your rush because you beleive the time is right...I beleive the time will be still right a year from now...but you really need a decent down payment or you will be waisting alot of money in the long run.

Take it with a grain of salt, I have no personal experience.
Posted by displacedhorn
batonrouge
Member since Jul 2009
932 posts
Posted on 9/16/09 at 10:27 am to
then you pay 3500 a year for taxes on that houston home also..dont forget the crazy high taxes in texas..
Posted by OTalter
Member since Sep 2009
50 posts
Posted on 9/16/09 at 10:59 am to
Thanks for all the advice guys. It is in Houston, and I actually lived there this past summer in the Heights area. The drive to work from there was north against traffic (quick). I'd like to stay inside the loop, so yea i'll probably have to save awhile. I have a yellow lab so i'd like to have at least some kinda fenced yard...that's why i'm dreading an apartment!

I'm going to make a few trips this fall to look around.

What about letting a friend rent out a room to help with the house note? Good idea, bad idea? Thanks for the responses

Posted by ManiaTiger
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
97 posts
Posted on 9/16/09 at 11:16 am to
As referenced above prices outside of loop in Houston for real estate in Texas is incredible ...especially with Katy, Richmond, Perland, etc. continue to expand and build new homes.

I-10 is much improved and I soley use Westpark Tollway which is extremely quick for me

Pro of living outside of loop more house less money and yard...inside loop probably minimal yard at best hell lots are going for 200K but if you needed to sell it could be done much quicker than outside loop

Friend renting out never a bad idea - however it really comes down to your cash flow and I would buy a home soley basing it off of my income not hoping you have a tenant...so I would say that is a non factor

If you have friends in the area have them show you different spots in town or have a real estate agent give you some ideas

Also, you apply for the Texas Homestead Exemption and that will lower your property tax...I actually thought Texas had low property tax, but it varies depending upon county


This post was edited on 9/16/09 at 11:18 am
Posted by DWaginHTown
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2006
9875 posts
Posted on 9/16/09 at 11:37 am to
quote:

then you pay 3500 a year for taxes on that houston home also..dont forget the crazy high taxes in texas..


but Zero in state income taxes
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15048 posts
Posted on 9/16/09 at 11:48 am to
quote:

but Zero in state income taxes
This is true whether he rents or buys.
Posted by OTalter
Member since Sep 2009
50 posts
Posted on 9/16/09 at 12:04 pm to
Ok, so I took a look at a mortgage calculator just as an example...
Terms:
$250,000
30 year
7% interest rate

Monthly payment: $1663
My take home pay per month will be ~$5000
So my monthly note would be about 33% of my pay

I know there are still utilities, home insurance, etc...but does the monthly payment seem reasonable for my income?
Posted by ManiaTiger
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
97 posts
Posted on 9/16/09 at 12:39 pm to
Note I am no mortgage guy - As you near buying home, mortgage person can give you estimates and pre approve you for an amount - given your income I don't even think you could get a home that size

In my opinion way too much home...estimate property tax at 3% (depends on county) would add around $625 to the $1,663 not to mention you still have utilites and might estimate home owners dues/insurance at another $250 per month. I would say you might want to focus on the 150-175K - of course extremely hard if not impossible to do inside loop

I have some good material I can email you for first time buying of home if you want to leave your email...it has some tools to use and lingo to read up on

Anyhow, I live in Katy if you ever want to see that area - new Bakers Street is a plus

Also, LSU ALUM has great chapter in Houston - lsuhouston.com
This post was edited on 9/16/09 at 12:42 pm
Posted by MikeBRLA
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2005
16477 posts
Posted on 9/16/09 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

but Zero in state income taxes

quote:

This is true whether he rents or buys.


Not true. Don't fall into this illusion. Renters pay property tax (indirectly through their rent), it just isn't direct nor itemized like it is if you own. In addition, since it isn't itemized you don't get to deduct this 'indirect' tax on your federal income tax the way you do if you directly paid it if you owned.

The property owner directly pays the tax, and passes that expense onto their renters.

Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15048 posts
Posted on 9/16/09 at 2:10 pm to
Certainly. But the tax is *built in* to the rent, whereas if you have a mortgage you have to calculate it and add it in separately. I think too many people neglect to do that. Not a big deal in LA maybe, where the amount is much less, but could be relevant in TX.
quote:

In addition, since it isn't itemized you don't get to deduct this 'indirect' tax on your federal income tax the way you do if you directly paid it if you owned.

This is true. But if you're considering this, run the numbers through the IRS tax calculator to see how much it's actually going to save you.

And as to my actual point, it is absolutely true that whether you rent or buy will have absolutely zero effect on your state income tax rates.
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
50355 posts
Posted on 9/16/09 at 3:13 pm to
quote:

So my monthly note would be about 33% of my pay



too high, and you don't have insurance or property tax. A good rough estimate is that your monthly housing expenses will be ~ 1% of the cost of your house. So probably closer to 2500 a month.

Also mad props for getting a job that pays that much straight out of college.
Posted by Ric Flair
Charlotte
Member since Oct 2005
13666 posts
Posted on 9/16/09 at 8:12 pm to
I'd rent an apartment inside the loop. In addition to being more mobile/portable as far as career opportunities and advancement, don't underestimate the power of hotties laying out by the pool and having a bar close by. Start saving for a down payment, but don't buy until you get married and have to move to Sugarland/Katy.
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