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Has the Will Cover car buying method been updated post 2022?
Posted on 1/11/24 at 5:35 pm
Posted on 1/11/24 at 5:35 pm
Have you looked at CarEdge?
There got trends on how car prices are finally going down.
Also are dealers now counteracting on these methods?
There got trends on how car prices are finally going down.
Also are dealers now counteracting on these methods?
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Posted on 1/11/24 at 5:59 pm to dstone12
Heard a few videos mention it. I need to check it out.
My wife might be in the market soon. Looking at a big rig (Expedition, Suburban, Sequioa.)
Damn, they are expensive.
My wife might be in the market soon. Looking at a big rig (Expedition, Suburban, Sequioa.)
Damn, they are expensive.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 7:28 pm to dstone12
Technology is commoditizing most industries.
Car dealers still make good money but on average I’m sure the transactions are skinny without the wiggle room that used to exist for negotiating.
Feel free to correct me if I’m wrong.
Car dealers still make good money but on average I’m sure the transactions are skinny without the wiggle room that used to exist for negotiating.
Feel free to correct me if I’m wrong.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 7:32 am to LSUcam7
quote:
Car dealers still make good money but on average I’m sure the transactions are skinny without the wiggle room that used to exist for negotiating.
I'm sure dealers are glad you think that!
Posted on 1/12/24 at 8:45 am to dstone12
quote:
Also are dealers now counteracting on these methods?
No. These still aren’t common knowledge, dealers are still idiots, and dealers still prey on idiots
Posted on 1/12/24 at 10:00 am to Billy Blanks
quote:
My wife might be in the market soon. Looking at a big rig (Expedition
mom just got a brand new expedition and its been in the shop twice in the last three months for the same sensor warnings and failures
Posted on 1/12/24 at 11:35 am to RATeamWannabe
quote:
My wife might be in the market soon. Looking at a big rig (Expedition
mom just got a brand new expedition and its been in the shop twice in the last three months for the same sensor warnings and failures
Noted.
Looks like my search will be Chevy and Toyota then.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 1:24 pm to Billy Blanks
quote:I'm 100% Team Lexus but one of my kids and their spouse both have new (a 1 & a 2 year-old) GMC Yukons and they've had zero issues with either of the vehicles.
Noted.
Looks like my search will be Chevy and Toyota then.
They turn-over (not literally) vehicles about every three years.
I'd go Toyota/Lexus personally but I keep vehicles for 6-7 years.
Good luck!
Posted on 1/12/24 at 4:02 pm to dstone12
look for the vehicle that you want on cars.com or autotrader and find the one with the biggest dealer discount. thats your starting point for negotiation with your local dealers.
Posted on 1/13/24 at 8:22 am to dstone12
Advice #6377:
When you locate lowest advertised price, ask the dealer to send you a proposed workup with TOTAL costs including TTL/prep/transport/extra equipment, etc.
Recently purchased a Honda CRV and the dealers with lowest advertised prices were actually pulling bait and switch by holding other costs out on internet.
When you locate lowest advertised price, ask the dealer to send you a proposed workup with TOTAL costs including TTL/prep/transport/extra equipment, etc.
Recently purchased a Honda CRV and the dealers with lowest advertised prices were actually pulling bait and switch by holding other costs out on internet.
Posted on 1/13/24 at 8:34 am to ValhallaAwaits
Read the disclaimers on the advertisments on the internet searches.
Theyll yell you how many addition fees they are going to mark shite up with to add to the advertised price.
Theyll yell you how many addition fees they are going to mark shite up with to add to the advertised price.
Posted on 1/13/24 at 9:31 am to ValhallaAwaits
Ask for out the door price. That’s the all-in figure.
Posted on 1/13/24 at 10:49 am to dstone12
The best advice is to give as little information to the salesman as possible.
Are you looking to finance? Not sure.
Are you trading in your vehicle? Not sure.
What do you think about the car (on test drive)? It's OK.
Negotiate the vehicle and get a settled price. Negotiate the trade-in afterwards. Then negotiate the financing and warranties after that.
And if you're paying cash PLEASE don't tell them that up front because you won't get any wiggle room on the car price if they know that they can't make it up in financing.
Oh and the most important thing of it all is be willing to walk!
If you're wanting to give them an offer on a car (which I don't recommend) then make sure when the guy says he's bringing your offer to the manager let them know that they get ONE talk. None of this back and forth bullshite.
Just be an a-hole and don't feel bad about it. This process is literally meant to frick you. And even if you feel good about the deal you get, remember that you're still getting fricked. So frick them.
Are you looking to finance? Not sure.
Are you trading in your vehicle? Not sure.
What do you think about the car (on test drive)? It's OK.
Negotiate the vehicle and get a settled price. Negotiate the trade-in afterwards. Then negotiate the financing and warranties after that.
And if you're paying cash PLEASE don't tell them that up front because you won't get any wiggle room on the car price if they know that they can't make it up in financing.
Oh and the most important thing of it all is be willing to walk!
If you're wanting to give them an offer on a car (which I don't recommend) then make sure when the guy says he's bringing your offer to the manager let them know that they get ONE talk. None of this back and forth bullshite.
Just be an a-hole and don't feel bad about it. This process is literally meant to frick you. And even if you feel good about the deal you get, remember that you're still getting fricked. So frick them.
Posted on 1/14/24 at 10:36 am to Billy Blanks
We have a 21 expedition and it’s been bulletproof so far. 50k miles on it with zero issues
Posted on 1/14/24 at 4:27 pm to dstone12
Open your search nationwide and do not settle for you local dealer.
Car sales and Service are two separate entities and your car salesman is pretty much worthless after sale.
Ignore MSRP and figure out what Invoice price is. They are still very profitable at Invoice price, so figure out your target price from there. Then float that number around the country.
A $500 one-way plane ticket to save thousands is always worth it.
Car sales and Service are two separate entities and your car salesman is pretty much worthless after sale.
Ignore MSRP and figure out what Invoice price is. They are still very profitable at Invoice price, so figure out your target price from there. Then float that number around the country.
A $500 one-way plane ticket to save thousands is always worth it.
Posted on 1/14/24 at 9:54 pm to DarthRebel
How do you find the invoice price?
Posted on 1/14/24 at 11:02 pm to DarthRebel
Regions can have different manufacture incentives that would make a price 1,300 miles away not actually what they could do locally.
Posted on 1/15/24 at 10:37 am to meeple
quote:
How do you find the invoice price?
Edmunds or Kelly Blue Book
Invoice is the dealers "charged" price from Manufacturer. The true cost is much lower than that with holdback and other dealer hidden incentives/bonus.
They are making thousands per sale even at invoice, so you can even negotiate down from there. Still supply and demand factor in though.
MSRP - High demand, low supply
Invoice - Most fall here
Under Invoice - Slow selling, over supply, or volume dealer trying to hit sales number bonus with manufacturer.
All Manufacturer rebates are outside scope of selling price. Do not let them use a rebate to reduce MSRP down to Invoice. They are making same profit.
Posted on 1/15/24 at 10:40 am to gobuxgo5
quote:
Regions can have different manufacture incentives that would make a price 1,300 miles away not actually what they could do locally.
Then I would assume you would buy it locally
What if region incentive is 1,300 miles away
My point is open your search nationwide, but buy the best deal. If it local, you would obviously go with that option.
My last purchase I saved $5000 buying in VA over TX. Had a free plane ticket, so I was just out the gas and two day drive back home.
Posted on 1/15/24 at 11:11 am to DarthRebel
quote:
Under Invoice - Slow selling, over supply, or volume dealer trying to hit sales number bonus with manufacturer.
got both my titan and armada at UNDER INVOICE years back.
had to have my shite together and play hard ball but it worked.
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