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Posted on 11/1/21 at 3:39 pm to
Posted by Special K
Member since Jun 2011
1101 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 3:39 pm to
Binance.US is not available in Connecticut, Hawaii, Idaho, Louisiana, New York, Texas, or Vermont
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
38918 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 3:57 pm to
Crap, forgot about that. Coinbase it is.
Posted by burymeinTS
Member since Sep 2015
47 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 4:14 pm to
I don't want to derail the thread on crypto platforms but I use Voyager as my crypto trading platform. Are there any major cons to using Voyager with a bot trading strategy like this?
Posted by mach316
Jonesboro, AR
Member since Jul 2012
4776 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 4:20 pm to
quote:

I don't want to derail the thread on crypto platforms but I use Voyager as my crypto trading platform. Are there any major cons to using Voyager with a bot trading strategy like this?


I'm not sure what the trading fees are for Voyager, but according to the video guide I used, Binance/BinanceUS has some of the lowest fees available. I know coinbase fees are pretty hi, and that can cut into your profits. They have a list of the exchanges that you can use available on the 3commas site.
Posted by mach316
Jonesboro, AR
Member since Jul 2012
4776 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 4:31 pm to
quote:

What's your definition of a small bank roll?


3 Comma's actually has a free version that you can trade from. You can make one composite bot that allows you to trade 5 different cryptos. This is how I started just to see if it worked. As far as the amount of money depends on how many safety orders you will be comfortable with.

In this scenario, this bot could ultimately cost you $136 if it completely maxed out. Of course the returns wont be mind blowing, but if you have a bunch of them running, you could make decent money. Again, the odds of all your bots filling all the safety orders at one time is slim.

Buy order $10
Safety order $10
Number of safety orders at 10 with a price deviation at 2.5%
Safety order volume scale at 1.05
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 4:31 pm to
I can’t use FTX either
Posted by Mark Makers
The LP
Member since Jul 2015
2336 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 4:45 pm to
i joined the Trade Alts discord server and folks are recommending kucoin. Apparently you can use it "unverified" and they limit you to 1 BTC withdrawal limit per day.

Also are you sure you can't use FTX in CT? I thought the only state I saw restricted was New York. Not sure though.
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9847 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 4:47 pm to
quote:

I don't want to derail the thread on crypto platforms but I use Voyager as my crypto trading platform. Are there any major cons to using Voyager with a bot trading strategy like this?


Voyager is basically a broker. Not an exchange. While they say "no fees", you are paying a higher price for your assets when you buy.

You would be better off looking at actual crypto exchanges with more advanced features.
Posted by Mark Makers
The LP
Member since Jul 2015
2336 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 4:49 pm to
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kucoin


"The United States has strict regulations for cryptocurrency exchanges, and KuCoin is not licensed to operate in the states. If you live in the U.S, you may be tempted to use KuCoin without completing the KYC verification. You'd have restrictions on how much you could withdraw, and how much leverage you could access.

There are a couple of risks here. First, if the U.S. cracks down on people accessing unlicensed exchanges, your assets might get frozen. Second, KuCoin doesn't offer the same support to unverified accounts in the case of hacking, fraud, or theft. So proceed with caution if you're a U.S.-based user."
Posted by mach316
Jonesboro, AR
Member since Jul 2012
4776 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 4:58 pm to
List of exchanges

3 Comma's
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 5:22 pm to
It said the United States. Maybe my vpn screwed things up
Posted by eng08
Member since Jan 2013
5997 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 7:38 pm to
Need to get the boys running on fantom and matic defi aps
Posted by Mark Makers
The LP
Member since Jul 2015
2336 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 8:19 pm to
Make sure you are looking at FTX.us and not .com
This post was edited on 11/1/21 at 8:20 pm
Posted by SkinnyTestaverde
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Dec 2009
401 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 8:33 pm to
How much money do you guys have in the trading accounts?
Posted by mach316
Jonesboro, AR
Member since Jul 2012
4776 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 8:51 pm to
I actually sold some crypto to fund mine, but it can be done with any amount really. This guide helps for people just starting out. Take profits in USD, and add more bots when possible.

LINK
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
38918 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 8:52 pm to
I'm using a relatively small account for now ($1,000). I need to spend more time learning the system. I'll report back my findings.
Posted by Aug1
Member since Nov 2013
79 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 9:13 am to
If your account is not fully funded can you really withstand a ~50% downswing? I get that you don’t anticipate all pairs filling all orders but the crypto market is highly correlated to the price of Bitcoin which would likely be the catalyst for a 50% sell off if it were to happen. I guess you’re shielded against individual coins dropping and not the market as a whole? How well do you believe this strategy work in a bear market? Which subscription with 3commas do you use? Seems you can trade all usd pairs on one bot with the lowest tier?
Posted by mach316
Jonesboro, AR
Member since Jul 2012
4776 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 10:29 am to
I have quite a bit in this account to cover a lot of it. My plan was to adjust things as needed depending on the market. I personally think bitcoin will be pushing 100k by the end of January. If it does this, I will adjust my bots accordingly. Of course I could be wrong and we nose dive from here, but unless it’s a black swan type event, it will gradually trend down which should clear my bots. There is also a smart trade feature where you can add funds to a bot after all the safety orders have filled to bring your DCA down even further. There is also a “short” feature that you can switch the bots too, but I haven’t played with this. I’m overall bullish till the first of next year.

Could I run my bots to where they are fully covered all the way down? I could, but what ends up happening is that a lot of money just sits on the sideline not making anything. I noticed this when I started using these bots. When/if bitcoin hits triple digits, I will definitely decrease my buy and safety orders down. Will probably increase the number of safety trades as well. There’s really no perfect way to set them. I’m always adjusting them trying to find the sweet spot I’m comfortable with.

I’m typing this at work so I may not have made myself real clear :(
This post was edited on 11/2/21 at 10:58 am
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
38918 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 11:09 am to
quote:

I get that you don’t anticipate all pairs filling all orders but the crypto market is highly correlated to the price of Bitcoin which would likely be the catalyst for a 50% sell off if it were to happen


A market-wide 50% sell off is pretty unlikely though.
This post was edited on 11/2/21 at 11:25 am
Posted by Aug1
Member since Nov 2013
79 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 11:44 am to
I was around for the he 2018 crash which saw most coins experience a 95% correction. Haha. I under times are different now with institutional money in the game, but you never know.

Thanks for the explanation Mach. I will look into this some more. It sounds interesting.
This post was edited on 11/2/21 at 11:45 am
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