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re: Anyone own vending machines?

Posted on 1/17/23 at 6:22 am to
Posted by Hawgeye
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Posted on 1/17/23 at 6:22 am to
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Quick update: we went and restocked the machines. People have definitely been using them more due to the card readers.


Yea. Card readers were a game changer on our machines.

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We found an awesome vending repair company that is going to convert 3 of the snack machines to MDB, install the card readers, and install the compressor on the broken soda machine. So we'll have 8 fully loaded machines with card readers


That’s good. I’d assume you’ll have to meet them to let them in the machines, which means you’ll be able to watch and maybe learn some things?

How have you decided to get your product right now?
Posted by TheOcean
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Posted on 1/18/23 at 7:19 am to
Truthfully, we could have figured out how to do it all ourselves, but since we have a couple other businesses...time wise it's way better to pay them $200 in labor to knock it all out. And for $9k all in (original purchase, card readers, and upgrades) we're going to have 8 fully functional machines with card readers. Not too shabby.

We went with sams club/costco for now. I figure that'll work well until we decide to find new locations. Then we'll have to go with what you do as it'll make life a million times easier.

I'd say our biggest headache so far has been learning how to properly fill the snack machines. Holy shite is it easy for the product to get stuck in those frickers.
This post was edited on 1/18/23 at 7:20 am
Posted by TheOcean
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Posted on 1/18/23 at 7:33 am to
How do you handle refunds? We're going to create an email and put it on each machine so people can reach out with any issues. I refuse to put a cell number since I don't want a bunch of calls
Posted by Hawgeye
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Posted on 1/19/23 at 6:34 pm to
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I'd say our biggest headache so far has been learning how to properly fill the snack machines. Holy shite is it easy for the product to get stuck in those frickers.


Chips are the worst if your coils aren’t big enough. Not far enough down, they’ll pop out and lay on top and someone loses money, then eventually someone gains a bag of chips. Candy bars…they’ll need to have a slight lean backwards with the back of them leaning on the coil behind them and the bottoms of them up against the coil in front of them.
Posted by Hawgeye
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Posted on 1/19/23 at 6:37 pm to
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How do you handle refunds? We're going to create an email and put it on each machine so people can reach out with any issues. I refuse to put a cell number since I don't want a bunch of calls


At places that have an administrative assistant, normally just leave them $20 in ones and check with them every week. I do have a sticker with business info on machines. Only email though. Folks will blow your number up. Refunds are still one of the trickiest issues though. It’s hard to trust folks and you’ve kind of got to take their word for it a lot of times.
Posted by m2pro
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Posted on 1/20/23 at 10:42 am to
80+ machines is a lotttt of effort to be bringing home less than 100k take home. And it seems like a fair amount of risk in terms of investment. Hard to sell that many machines really fast. Seems viable if you live in a big city, and much less so if you live in a smaller area.*
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Posted by Hawgeye
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Posted on 1/20/23 at 2:55 pm to
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80+ machines is a lotttt of effort to be bringing home less than 100k take home. And it seems like a fair amount of risk in terms of investment. Hard to sell that many machines really fast. Seems viable if you live in a big city, and much less so if you live in a smaller area.*


I mean, it’s not that much effort. I have my own career. I have two employees. I’m retiring from my career at 50 and will work the business 2-3 days a week. I have a warehouse that’s bought in cash with two rental shops on the front that cover utilities.

I could make more off of the vending business if I wanted. Everyone’s risk tolerance is different. It isn’t that risky to me with my established locations…why would I want to sell any of my machines? It’s not like I just started this yesterday. I made it through Covid and shutdowns. I am in a large metro of over 1MM people but have locations across the state.

Nearly everything I bring home in vending goes back into the business or retirement. Mostly retirement.
Posted by m2pro
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Posted on 1/23/23 at 1:33 pm to
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why would I want to sell any of my machines?


No, you definitely wouldn't. I was saying for those of us that were intrigued enough to try this out and ultimately fail because of various reasons. Seems like a business model to start slow and ONLY scale 1 machine at a time.

I live in Tuscaloosa, AL. Not a big place. I've grown up here and bet I could weasel into a few spots if I wanted to, but that is a lot of money tied up in machines to start on any big scale at all.

I appreciate all of the input btw. It's been a fun thread to watch.
Posted by TheOcean
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Posted on 2/7/23 at 6:47 pm to
Quick update: first 30 days and we've had $600 in total sales. About half cash, have credit card. We just updated all machines this week and now every single machine is working and all will have card readers. We already had our best weekday every credit card wise today. I expect them to gross ~1 to 1.5k/month. We are adding red bulls, bangs, and other energy drinks people love too.
Posted by GAFF
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Posted on 2/7/23 at 6:50 pm to
I was hoping you’d update us. How did you clear after expenses?
Posted by TheOcean
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Posted on 2/7/23 at 7:04 pm to
We make about 50% on each item we sell. Have no real expenses other than the product we buy to refill and the $10/month fee we pay per credit card reader.

We haven't fine-tuned any of the pricing yet. We're waiting to see which items sell and which don't. Then we'll adjust the pricing and will definitely bump up the 50% profit margin while staying much cheaper than convenience stores.
Posted by TheOcean
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Posted on 4/21/23 at 5:28 am to
Quick update: ended up buying six more routes and 13 more machines. So up to 21 machines. The guy I bought the previous route from saved his best six routes after he downsized from 100+ machines and is now just looking to retire. Getting an awesome deal on the machines/routes.

Hawgeye -- how do you go about pricing items? We want to be significantly cheaper than convenience stores, but high enough price wise where we're making ~$1 per vend.
Posted by MikeD
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Posted on 4/21/23 at 12:03 pm to
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Quick update: ended up buying six more routes and 13 more machines. So up to 21 machines. The guy I bought the previous route from saved his best six routes after he downsized from 100+ machines and is now just looking to retire. Getting an awesome deal on the machines/routes.


Nice bump. Enjoyed reading the thread.
Posted by TheOcean
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Posted on 5/21/23 at 6:12 am to
Hawg if you read this, how did you target ALFs/nursing homes? Walking in and talking to someone?

Also, what are your thoughts on coffee vending machines? Would like to add a few to some of the locations
Posted by tigerpawl
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Posted on 5/23/23 at 7:16 pm to
Best locations are away from population centers + good highway traffic. Use to have machines in Galliano and Port Sulphur. Incredible numbers….
This post was edited on 5/23/23 at 7:18 pm
Posted by dgnx6
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Posted on 5/24/23 at 2:38 pm to
only advice i have is to get one with a card reader.
Posted by pioneerbasketball
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Posted on 10/14/23 at 2:13 am to
5 month bump. Googled "Vending Machine tigerdroppings" and this thread came up. I was interested into getting into this type of business at a slow pace.

Not sure if you live in Arkansas Hawgeye but what direction would be best....

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A taxpayer is given 3 options to manage their vending operations in Arkansas. All vending machines must display an annually issued vending device decal, no matter which option is chosen.

Option 1 involves the payment of sales tax directly to the supplier of all merchandise that will be sold through the taxpayer’s vending machines. Food sold through a vending machine can qualify for taxation at the Reduced Food Tax rate (see Rule 2007-3). No Sales/Use Tax permit is required if Option 1 is chosen.

After the opening of a Vending account, fiscal year decals are issued and placed on vending machines by the taxpayer. Prior to the beginning of each new fiscal year, a decal order form is mailed out to all Vending accounts. There are no fees for the annual Option 1 decals.

Option 2 involves reporting/paying the 7% Wholesale Vending Tax (see Rule 1995-2) each month on the merchandise to be sold through the taxpayer’s vending machines. Merchandise is purchased tax free under the sale for resale exemption. A Sales/Use Tax Permit is required. The taxpayer is required to file a monthly ET-1 Excise Tax Report and pay the appropriate tax.

After the opening of a Vending account, fiscal year decals are requested, issued, and placed on vending machines by the taxpayer. Prior to the beginning of each fiscal year, a decal order form is mailed out to all Vending accounts. There are no fees for the annual Option 2 decals.

Option 3 involves exempting vending merchandise purchases from tax under the sale for resale exemption. A Sales/Use Tax Permit is required. The taxpayer is required to file a monthly ET-1 Excise Tax Report.

After opening of a Vending account, fiscal year decals are purchased, issued, and placed on vending machines by the taxpayer. The vending machine operator purchases Option 3 decals based on various factors – manual verses electric vending equipment, value of the vended goods, and bulk verses individually vended goods. Prior to the beginning of each new fiscal year, a decal order form is mailed out to all Vending accounts. Decal costs are shown below.

Posted by TheOcean
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Posted on 10/15/23 at 6:58 am to
Hawgeye is the man. Hopefully he responds
Posted by Hawgeye
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Posted on 10/16/23 at 9:09 am to
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TheOcean


Sorry Ocean...did not see this. Thank Pioneer for getting my attention on Arkansas board...

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Quick update: ended up buying six more routes and 13 more machines. So up to 21 machines. The guy I bought the previous route from saved his best six routes after he downsized from 100+ machines and is now just looking to retire. Getting an awesome deal on the machines/routes.


That is awesome.

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Hawgeye -- how do you go about pricing items? We want to be significantly cheaper than convenience stores, but high enough price wise where we're making ~$1 per vend.


You wont like my answer to this if you are trying to be cheaper than convenience stores...but I use convenience stores as my price setter...I end up being cheaper because there is no tax charge obviously.

On items I dont like to just look up on the Quick Trip app, like some pastries or cold food items, I always charge 2.5 times or 3 times my cost. You need to make more than $1 per vend. Not sure what kind of deal you have worked out on Coke products, but I can get a case of Coke products (20oz. bottles) for about $23 which comes out to around $0.98 per bottle. I sell those for $2.75 each. Pepsi products are stupid high. They suck really for vendors. I sell those for $3 because their cost per bottle is around $1.22 for me. I limit my pepsi purchases to Pepsi, Mt Dew and diets in those as well, that is it.

Posted by Hawgeye
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Posted on 10/16/23 at 9:15 am to
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Hawg if you read this, how did you target ALFs/nursing homes? Walking in and talking to someone?


Yessir. Something I have never done but thought about was little retirement apartments and such. Throw out a bone of offering to provide drinks and snacks for holiday celebrations at the places as well. This beats giving them a percentage.

My rule of thumb is targeting places that there is no threat of machines getting broken into. Nothing outdoors, which I think I have probably said in this thread.

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Also, what are your thoughts on coffee vending machines? Would like to add a few to some of the locations


Never looked into it really. I am a big coffee drinker and any instant coffee like that I have ever had, sucked. But that is just me.

I strictly have drink machines, snack machines, and cold food machines. Have started selling phone charging cords, tylenols, and pepto as our police training facility. Sort of a test run. Large mark up on those.

In nursing homes or retirement places, be prepared to NOT be able to sell energy drinks. Each one I have will not allow those.
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