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Adoption - Financing Rates

Posted on 5/5/17 at 8:33 am
Posted by Jblac15
Member since Mar 2011
687 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 8:33 am
My wife and I have decided that we are going to begin the adoption process here in the near future. The research I've done thus far shows anywhere from 30-40k average after it's all said and done. Looking at financing options vs. paying cash. By the time we would actually have to write a big check, we will most likely have extra cash set aside, but I want to see about a loan in case the process goes quicker than expected. Not wanting to take a huge hit to my emergency fund and take home an infant at the same time.

Any insight from those of you who have been through this process would be great. Will I have to use a bank that specializes in Adoption financing, or can I just shop around for any type of un-secured loan?

Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 8:59 am to
Never gone through it, but pretty sure there are numerous non-profits out there that offer adoption financial assistance. Would imagine they may offer better rates than a bank can, but no idea.


Also, many companies offer their employees adoption assistance. May be worth a shot to check with yours if you haven't already.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18315 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 11:29 am to
quote:

anywhere from 30-40k average


wow, it really costs this much to adopt?
Posted by Turftoe
Denver
Member since Mar 2016
3893 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 11:43 am to
Pretty disgusting amount of $ to have to shell out to give a child a home.
Posted by Jblac15
Member since Mar 2011
687 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 12:37 pm to
Yeah it's definitely not a cheap process with everything involved...
Posted by pjab
Member since Mar 2016
5645 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 12:42 pm to
I second looking into company benefits.
Posted by matthew25
Member since Jun 2012
9425 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 11:49 pm to
One million families in America are looking to adopt.

Only 110,000 were successful last year.
Posted by gpburdell
ATL
Member since Jun 2015
1419 posts
Posted on 5/6/17 at 2:59 am to
I know nothing about adoptions. However, I know Lightstream offers loans for medical/adoption purposes.
Posted by Jblac15
Member since Mar 2011
687 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 8:14 am to
Thanks for all the feedback.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 11:03 am to
You can also take a tax deduction for fees associated with the process. I think last year it was like $26,000. Like someone else said I would talk to an organization that does that kind of stuff to get all of that info hammered down.
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
82010 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 11:41 am to
Honestly, the whole thing should be deductible
Posted by BayouNation
Member since Sep 2008
2008 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 2:09 pm to
Why is it so expensive? Who's making the money? Government?
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 2:22 pm to
And to think we pay some people to have future voters... I mean kids.
Posted by Jblac15
Member since Mar 2011
687 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 3:11 pm to
quote:

Why is it so expensive? Who's making the money? Government?


Consultant fees, attorney fees, social worker/home study fees

Then depending on the birth mother's situation you could be responsible for living expenses, therapy, and medical expenses throughout the remainder of the pregnancy.
Posted by Wortivi22
Land of Mini Vans
Member since Dec 2007
855 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 4:18 pm to
quote:

Why is it so expensive? Who's making the money? Government?


I'll jump in on this to expound as well. My oldest is adopted and she is now in her late teens. We went through a private attorney in NOLA, so a little more expensive than say, catholic charities.

You have to remember that the birthmother and her family were dirt poor. She had no insurance, no way to pay for prenatal care, and no way to make money while she didn't work during childbirth (yes, she had a part-time job at a fast food restaurant and was the bread winner for her family - family, meaning her mother and grandmother).

Things we had to pay for:
1. Prenatal care
2. Hospital stay during childbirth
*Both of these items are not covered by my insurance, so we had to pay the cash price. The other option was to have the birthmother go to Charity in NOLA or somewhere like that, so we paid a big bill at a very nice, private hospital.
3. Attorney fees and court costs
*Attorney fees were surprisingly low in the grand scheme of things. There are several court visits as you make your way to finally, officially adopting the child. All these court costs are paid up front to the attorney, along with his fees.
4. In home visits and studies by social worker along with fairly extensive background check and application (read: government).
5. Money for the birthmother. While this could be construed as a bribe, or payment for the child, the reality is that the birthmother is going to have to miss several weeks of work. Did I mention that she was dirt poor, and cannot afford to miss any work? So, we paid her what she would have made during that time period, along with any other expenses she incurred to that point for the pregnancy. She probably embellished the amount, but for the amount she was asking, compared to the other totals, we didn't bat an eye.

All in all, many look at the $30,000 price tag and think the lawyers take the majority of it, but in my experience, the majority went to the hospital first, then the doctors, then the lawyer, then the birthmother, then the fees. IIRC, much of it was tax deductible. I think we came in around $28,500, but this was almost 20 years ago now.

As for the OP, I cannot help with questions about financing, as we paid cash. it was a tough pill to swallow, which made for lots of begging and borrowing during those first few months. Borrow everything you can: crib, changing table, clothes, etc. I am certainly glad we had the support system of family and friends for all of those things.

Oh, and all of those expenses now pale in comparison to having a teenager that is driving and shopping.



Best of luck to you OP, and if you have any other questions I can help with, I'm happy to help. I have another child since that is not adopted, and I seriously see no difference in the two. It has been one of the most rewarding experiences of my life and I wouldn't change any of it for the world.
Posted by lnomm34
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2009
12604 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 4:25 pm to
Fantastic insight. I will admit I've been ignorant to why adoptions cost so much. Thanks for explaining!
Posted by Jblac15
Member since Mar 2011
687 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 8:29 pm to
Man that was an awesome write up and I greatly appreciate it.
Posted by poule deau
Member since Jan 2009
1405 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 9:50 am to
quote:

My wife and I have decided that we are going to begin the adoption process here in the near future


Congratulations.

quote:

30-40k average


Correct.

quote:

Any insight from those of you who have been through this process would be great


I have been through the process multiple times. My suggestions from these experiences:

1. I strongly suggest using an agency (volunteers of America, catholic charities, etc) vs a private attorney. Most agencies offer some protection for your money in that if the adoption falls through, whatever expense you have incurred goes towards the next time. Usually with a private adoption if the birth mother changes her mind at any point until the paperwork is final, your money is lost.

2. The tax incentive is a tax credit, which is different than a deduction. I have not had an adoption since the rules were tweaked in 2013 but the credit is a nice offset to the cost.

3. I am not aware of any special financing options for adoptions but a HELOC or similar might offer the best rate and simplest process if available to you.

4. The wait is excruciating, especially for the first child. It gets a little easier the next time. However, despite the process and cost, it is undoubtedly one of the most worthwhile experiences you can undertake.

Best of luck to you.
Posted by Jblac15
Member since Mar 2011
687 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:03 am to
Many thanks.

We will be using an agency without a doubt. Looking forward to the rollercoaster that we're about to board.
Posted by BayouNation
Member since Sep 2008
2008 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 4:14 pm to
Thanks for the explanation and making sense of it all. I'm sure it was well worth the costs looking back on it now. Cheers!
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