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Posted on 7/8/15 at 1:38 pm to vuvuzela
Are Nikkei futures really down over 5 percent???
This post was edited on 7/8/15 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 7/8/15 at 1:42 pm to bayoubengals88
Nikkei fell thru a head/shoulder pattern earlier
spx is sitting right on the edge of one - potential 75 pt drop which would hit my target of 1975'ish area
will have to see if it plays out
transports getting hammered
spx is sitting right on the edge of one - potential 75 pt drop which would hit my target of 1975'ish area
will have to see if it plays out
transports getting hammered
This post was edited on 7/8/15 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 7/8/15 at 1:50 pm to LSU1NSEC
What time frame are you looking for regarding charts and levels of resistance?
Posted on 7/8/15 at 1:54 pm to bayoubengals88
right now, i'm looking at whether spx 2040 holds
time frame i'm interested in is 6 months
not sure about resistance levels 2080, 2100 seem reasonable (spx)
time frame i'm interested in is 6 months
not sure about resistance levels 2080, 2100 seem reasonable (spx)
This post was edited on 7/8/15 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:03 pm to LSU1NSEC
Nikkei is down 3% AGAIN.
Why? Are they connected to the Chinese economy by default?
Australia is also down again.
Why? Are they connected to the Chinese economy by default?
Australia is also down again.
Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:17 pm to bayoubengals88
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Nikkei is down 3% AGAIN.
Why? Are they connected to the Chinese economy by default?
Not sure. I don't follow Asia too much.
Still think we get spx 2096 - 2100 before a big move down. Dow Jones Transports looking bad.
spx technical breakdown
This post was edited on 7/8/15 at 8:51 pm
Posted on 7/8/15 at 10:05 pm to bayoubengals88
quote:You're kidding right?
Why? Are they connected to the Chinese economy by default?
Posted on 7/8/15 at 10:16 pm to Iosh
I'm not kidding. I'm not well versed in the global economy, however I'm a world geography teacher and I think I recall the two being close in proximity.
Posted on 7/8/15 at 10:27 pm to LSUneaux
US markets up ~0.50%
Was hoping for the slide to continue
Was hoping for the slide to continue
Posted on 7/8/15 at 11:59 pm to TigerTatorTots
quote:
Shanghai-based money manager Alexandre Werno is having to grudgingly accept one of the downsides to running a fund management business on the mainland: stumping up his own cash to help rescue the stock market.
The executive vice general manager of Fortune SG FMC, a joint venture between Baosteel Group and French bank Societe Generale, he and other senior managers had to each invest 500,000 yuan (HK$625,000) into their company funds as part of Beijing's strategy to arrest the steepest fall in equity prices in more than two decades.
"There was an internal debate but as we are in China, we had no choice," Werno said.
That money came on top of the 40 million yuan of Fortune SG capital Werno's company pledged to split between two of its blue chip tracker exchange-traded funds. As part of a recent measure designed by regulators to restore investor confidence, fund houses like Werno's committed to buying index trackers last weekend. Neither Werno nor his firm is supposed to sell these holdings for at least a year.
The only solace Werno takes from the exercise is "strong signals" from regulators that the government will keep the Shanghai Composite index above 3,500 points, only slightly below the level Werno bought in at.
Trying to call the bottom right now is like catching a falling meat cleaver. The country's two main indices tracking Shanghai- and Shenzhen-listed stocks crashed through their 50-day moving average levels late last month and kept on falling. They are now just 4 per cent above the 200-day moving average, seen as a key support level around which traders cut losses and sell.
The 14-day relative strength index, a measurement of a market's strength or weakness, has been flashing oversold for more than a week with little impact.
"I would say we go back to when all the lunacy started in mid 2014, to 2,300. Another 30 or 40 per cent from here," said Michael Every, Rabobank head of financial markets.
"We undo everything that has been done since then as that was all completely artificial."
In particular, the market's margin trading level - stocks bought with borrowed money - estimated at 6 trillion yuan by Bank of America Merrill Lynch, has become a death spiral. The more prices go down, the more pressure on traders to sell or cough up more cash to maintain their positions.
Citibank analysts believe a quarter of margin positions have been closed while analysts at BAML expect the main Shanghai index would need to drop to around 2,500 points before large-scale margin calls are triggered.
Werno said it was already happening as directors of listed companies borrowed heavily against their own stocks to fund mortgages and other investments and now face calls as loan collateral values plummeted.
"[Investors] have never seen this, including back in 2008. Currently there is no liquidity as we have 50 per cent of stocks in China suspended. Everybody wants to sell. Definitely we're worried," said Werno.
The government now needed to go big, said Tim Condon, chief economist at ING. His solution: A 4 trillion yuan package. "Assuming informal margin debt is equal to formal debt, backstopping outstanding margin debt, [it] would be big enough to halt the panic selling," Condon said.
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 6:04 am to Iowa Golfer
Just saw golfers post...emini sept contract. In at 2074. Out at 2050. Looks like i was a day too early this morning. Might try again at end of day if everything holds up.
Posted on 7/9/15 at 6:26 am to TigerTatorTots
quote:
Was hoping for the slide to continue
Me too...
Oh well, threw a good bit in yesterday. Getting a small, quick pop off of that.
I'll just continue to dollar cost average
Posted on 7/9/15 at 7:44 am to LSU0358
quote:
Just saw golfers post...emini sept contract. In at 2074. Out at 2050. Looks like i was a day too early this morning. Might try again at end of day if everything holds up.
Sorry.
For this reason I generally don't play the contracts unless they are far out. Always based on what I think are fundamentals. It's very difficult to go to to 2017 and even 2018 without paying too much. I did on uranium though after it crashed.
I will buy options of the contracts however. Every once in a while I'll sell an option. Not often in this market though. I like to limit losses without giving away my position and getting stopped out An option on a contract guarantee this unless I'm selling them.
This post was edited on 7/9/15 at 7:49 am
Posted on 7/9/15 at 8:38 am to TigerTatorTots
quote:
Was hoping for the slide to continue
I'm pissed off on an irrational level when all 389 stocks on my watch list are green.
Posted on 7/9/15 at 8:47 am to bayoubengals88
Beautiful. Short VIX. There are few opportunities such as the last couple of days. Not 100% guaranteed or predictable, but awfully close. Portfolio insured with VIX calls = extra cash, future's took a spike and I went short VIX puts = even more extra cash.
I suspect after my insurance premium I'm down in the aggregate with respect to insurance versus insurance payout, but a minor blip on the radar screen.
Picked up physical siver yesterday and still paid only $1 over spot. Went long, long metals two days ago for well below implied and intrinsic values.
I furthered my position in ERN.
I have one naked put position that will cost me, but it hasn't yet.
All in all an example of uncertainty and fear which caused further market inefficiencies. Not that the market hasn't already sustained a long period of being inefficient in my estimation, but that debate is for another day and largely subjective.
I saw opportunity. I was accurate insofar as the short term trades I made. Time will tell if I was accurate with respect to longer positions entered in to.
Bring on the world wide recession. Laffy. The one thing I agree with Dave Ramsey about is that I refuse to participate or engage national media fueled economic situations.
I suspect after my insurance premium I'm down in the aggregate with respect to insurance versus insurance payout, but a minor blip on the radar screen.
Picked up physical siver yesterday and still paid only $1 over spot. Went long, long metals two days ago for well below implied and intrinsic values.
I furthered my position in ERN.
I have one naked put position that will cost me, but it hasn't yet.
All in all an example of uncertainty and fear which caused further market inefficiencies. Not that the market hasn't already sustained a long period of being inefficient in my estimation, but that debate is for another day and largely subjective.
I saw opportunity. I was accurate insofar as the short term trades I made. Time will tell if I was accurate with respect to longer positions entered in to.
Bring on the world wide recession. Laffy. The one thing I agree with Dave Ramsey about is that I refuse to participate or engage national media fueled economic situations.
This post was edited on 7/9/15 at 8:49 am
Posted on 7/9/15 at 10:21 am to Iowa Golfer
That's the way it goes in futures trading.
I still don't have quite enough money to buy and hold futures contracts. On a long term position I prefer to give 5% of market/stock value swing room when establishing a position. At current SPX value that's over 100 pts or $5K for an e-mini. As I don't want to risk more than 3 to 4% of my account on an initial position. That means more than ~170K is needed for that type of trade. I'm more than halfway there...but still some work to do.
I still don't have quite enough money to buy and hold futures contracts. On a long term position I prefer to give 5% of market/stock value swing room when establishing a position. At current SPX value that's over 100 pts or $5K for an e-mini. As I don't want to risk more than 3 to 4% of my account on an initial position. That means more than ~170K is needed for that type of trade. I'm more than halfway there...but still some work to do.
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