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401k with 4% Company match?

Posted on 1/12/15 at 6:08 am
Posted by Lee Chatelain
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 6:08 am
Is that good? Bad?
Posted by ds1tiger
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 6:12 am to
I would say it's not bad. My company matches 3% so there is my perspective.
Posted by ljd4662
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 7:07 am to
Not bad, but definitely not great. I know of a few companies that match 10%.
Posted by CQQ
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 7:12 am to
$1 for $1? I would say that's average.

My company puts 3% in even if you don't enroll. If you enroll for 3%, they match 6% on top of the "free" 3%.

So I put 5% and get 9% match. I haven't heard of a better one in this area than that.

quote:

Bad?

It's free money, it's never bad
This post was edited on 1/12/15 at 7:13 am
Posted by TigerTatorTots
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:00 am to
Not good, not bad. I'd say average
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:09 am to
I've got 4% plus an additional 3% that is on top of it after 3 years. $1 for $1.

Previously is was $0.50 match on the first 5%....which is definitely sub par.
This post was edited on 1/12/15 at 9:10 am
Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:31 am to
We're 50% of the first 6%, so basically 3% max. I think its "ok" for the size of the company... Certainly not great, but I'm grateful to have something.
Posted by cuyahoga tiger
NE Ohio via Tangipahoa
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:33 am to
They match $ for $ up to 3% of my yearly earnings
Posted by The Easter Bunny
Minnesota
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 10:40 am to
My company does 75% up to 6%, so I really hope my peers are putting at least 8% in, but I know most aren't
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 10:45 am to
3 to 5 is standard, in whatever combination.

Federal employees, for example, get 1% gratis, 3% is matched dollar for dollar, and an additional 2% is matched 50 cents on the dollar, so 5 gets you 10.

Some private plans have a similar structure to encourage saving - bottom line, don't leave money on the table - so if 4% buys you 8%, spend the 4% - I would avoid "overcontributing" because in most cases, you want to go ROTH unless you're at your peak income (typically last 5 to 8 working years), and fund it with post-tax dollars.

But, 4 gets you 8 isn't a bad deal at all.
This post was edited on 1/12/15 at 11:19 am
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 11:00 am to
A 3 match is the level that is a safe harbor, which means a plan doesn't have to undergo discrimination testing. A lot of plans use 3 (or 50 cents on the dollar till 6/3).

I would say a 4 would put you probably in the top quarter of companies. Maybe higher. 5 is really good, and it's rare to see more than 5.
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 11:18 am to
quote:


So I put 5% and get 9% match. I haven't heard of a better one in this area than that.


I put in 5 and get 10







Sorry, had to
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 11:19 am to
quote:

I put in 5 and get 10


NVM - 10 isn't the net, that's the match.

So, 5 buys you 15 (or am I misunderstanding)?

This post was edited on 1/12/15 at 11:22 am
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 11:26 am to
This thread is making me feel awfully happy about my company's match
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 11:28 am to
5 buys me 15

Yes
Posted by TigerScratch
West Monroe
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 11:29 am to
quote:

Certainly not great, but I'm grateful to have something.


It's nice to hear when people appreciate things.
Posted by LSUtigerME
Walker, LA
Member since Oct 2012
3789 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 11:29 am to
Depends on industry and size (and what comparisons you have in market). Overall, 4% free money pretty good. Did not know the "safe harbor" thing above.

However, in O&G, it seems a bit higher. I can get up to 10% at 10 year service, former employer was 7%, and I know another matches 10% from beginning (in addition to pensions).

So compare against your competitors, not general public. Would a 4% match be better at a reduction of 5% of your salary than no match but higher salary?

I think the match encourages you to save. If you WILL do that anyway, it's just part of total compensation.
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
80762 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 11:34 am to
quote:

5 buys me 15

Yes
That is awesome
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61441 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 11:39 am to
I'm not fully vested yet though
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 11:55 am to
quote:

Depends on industry and size (and what comparisons you have in market).


very true.

I will say that 100 percent of my clients/contacts who have really high match rates (say 7 percent and above) are in oil and gas.

I'm curious what will happen to those rates if oil stays below 65-70 for an extended period of time.
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