re: Yes, LSU does have most active players in NFL

Posted by CubsFanBudMan

Member since Jul 2008

5067 posts

Posted on 1/17/17 at 12:01 pm to Da Joker

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I'm done arguing with you people.

I'm not sure what side of the argument you are on, but here's an example with your numbers. I'll base it on 1000 recruits and 100 draft slots, so 10% of the recruit population gets drafted.

2*: 578 recruits, 18.5 drafted 3.20%
3*: 329 recruits, 35.7 drafted 10.85%
4*: 77 recruits, 28.7 drafted 37.27%
5*: 16 recruits, 6.8 drafted 42.50%

A 5* recruit has 4.25 times greater chance at being drafted than average. Interesting that 3* recruit is pretty close to average chance of getting drafted.

This post was edited on 1/17/17 at 12:02 pm

Posted by MandevilleLSUTiger

Baton Rouge

Member since Sep 2005

6881 posts

Posted on 1/17/17 at 12:18 pm to Fratigerguy

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And for what will possibly be the most downvoted post in history, I'll point out that the guy responsible for that is no longer employed at LSU.

I hope you realize why, since you are reading this thread.

Posted by Da Joker

Member since Jan 2017

320 posts

Posted on 1/17/17 at 12:18 pm to CubsFanBudMan

You're right, I read it initially as 6.8% of that 16 get drafted, my mistake.

This post was edited on 1/17/17 at 12:57 pm

Posted by rickyh

Positiger Nation

Member since Dec 2003

12456 posts

Posted on 1/17/17 at 12:42 pm to Fratigerguy

The Bama bump that we see year in and year out in recruiting does not translate the the NFL. Just proves that old Les did less with more. And it finally caught up with him.

Posted by lsu2006

Member since Feb 2004

39980 posts

Posted on 1/17/17 at 12:43 pm to Bodhi Bodhisattva

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we still have Baton Rouge kids that want to go ride the pine at a rival.

Makes no sense.

Some people value playing for championships.

Posted by Fratigerguy

Member since Jan 2014

4743 posts

Posted on 1/17/17 at 1:05 pm to Da Joker

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Link?

Have a link too:

I'm done arguing with you people.

Hmmmm. Well, I would say that is eye opening, except for the fact that those numbers are based upon their percentage as a total of all player in the draft. Since there are 30ish 5 stars each year, 250 ish 4 stars, and 750 ish 3 stars, your numbers actually show that what I said is 100% accurate, and that you don't know how to look at data.

quote:
The more you know

Indeed.

Posted by TigersFan64

Baton Rouge, LA

Member since Oct 2014

4755 posts

Posted on 1/17/17 at 1:12 pm to Bodhi Bodhisattva

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LSU players are showing out in the NFL. OBJ, Debo Jones, PP7, TM7, Spencer Ware, Jeremy Hill just to name a few and we still have Baton Rouge kids that want to go ride the pine at a rival. Makes no sense.

The new Chargers tip the scale a little in the bad guys' favor.

Posted by Fratigerguy

Member since Jan 2014

4743 posts

Posted on 1/17/17 at 1:16 pm to rickyh

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The Bama bump that we see year in and year out in recruiting

So that's what we are going with now? Bama only has highly rated classes because of the Bama bump? Is that why they've been to 3 straight CFB playoffs? You guys kill me sometimes.

And here's a little secret....there are many LSU recruits who have gotten a bump once offered by LSU or after committing to LSU as well.

Posted by OweO

Plaquemine, La

Member since Sep 2009

113939 posts

Posted on 1/17/17 at 1:18 pm to tigerskin

This has been the case for at least the past two seasons and after this year's draft I am sure LSU will be at the top next year.

Posted by Da Joker

Member since Jan 2017

320 posts

Posted on 1/17/17 at 2:19 pm to Fratigerguy

Lol man, I already admitted that I misread the chart, but you're right that 5% more likely that a 5* gets drafted over a 4* is staggering.

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Posted by Rickdaddy4188

Murfreesboro,TN

Member since Aug 2011

46625 posts

Posted on 1/17/17 at 7:19 pm to Da Joker

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Seriously? Did you not click the link and see that LSU has the most active players in the NFL?

Check the last few drafts.
Also,using just nfl talent is ridiculous.
Tim Tebow and Johnny Manziel dont count towards their program's nfl players yet they are 2 of the the most productive players in sec history.

quote:
So you base your theory on one draft class? J

2 and about to be 3.
right now bama has 4 players out of their front 7 with 1st round grades and thats just the front 7.

Posted by Rickdaddy4188

Murfreesboro,TN

Member since Aug 2011

46625 posts

Posted on 1/17/17 at 7:28 pm to Da Joker

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man, I already admitted that I misread the chart, but you're right that 5% more likely that a 5* gets drafted over a 4* is staggering.

Recruiting sites actually do a great job with picking which recruits get 5 star ratings. 49% of all 5 stars will get drafted by the nfl.
Approximately 1500 recruits get signed every year. Recruiting sites pick 30-35 players out of those 1500 and hit on 49% of them. Thats outstanding.

Posted by Fratigerguy

Member since Jan 2014

4743 posts

Posted on 1/17/17 at 9:43 pm to Da Joker

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Lol man, I already admitted that I misread the chart, but you're right that 5% more likely that a 5* gets drafted over a 4* is staggering.

Not only are you bad at data, you're horrible at extrapolating stats too. Your above statement is not close to accurate.

Posted by Powerman

Member since Jan 2004

162212 posts

Posted on 1/17/17 at 10:46 pm to Da Joker

You just posted one but suck at math

Posted by ffishstik

Baton Rouge

Member since Dec 2007

4128 posts

Posted on 1/17/17 at 11:46 pm to wesman21

Kwon Alexander - Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Linebacker
Vadal Alexander - Oakland Raiders - Guard
Joe Barksdale - San Diego Chargers - Offensive Tackle
Odell Beckham Jr. - New York Giants - Wide Receiver
Alfred Blue - Houston Texans - Running Back
Delvin Breaux - New Orleans Saints - Cornerback
Michael Brockers - Los Angeles Rams - Defensive Tackle
Ron Brooks - Philadelphia Eagles - Cornerback
Morris Claiborne - Dallas Cowboys - Cornerback
Jalen Collins - Atlanta Falcons - Cornerback
La'el Collins - Dallas Cowboys - Offensive Lineman
Glenn Dorsey - San Francisco 49ers = Defensive Lineman
Ego Ferguson - Chicago Bears - Defensive Lineman
Dillon Gordon - Philadelphia Eagles - Guard
Jerald Hawkins - Pittsburgh Steelers - Offensive Tackle
Jeremy Hill - Cincinnati Bengals - Running Back
Danielle Hunter - Minnesota Vikings - Defensive End
Tyson Jackson - Atlanta Falcons - Defensive End
Ricky Jean Francois - Washington Redskins - Defensive End
Anthony Johnson - New York Jets - Defensive Tackle
Donnie Jones - Philadelphia Eagles - Punter
Deion Jones - Atlanta Falcons - Linebacker
Brandon LaFell - Cincinnati Bengals - Wide Receiver
Jarvis Landry - Miami Dolphins - Wide Receiver
Bennie Logan - Philadelphia Eagles - Defensive Tackle
Lamar Louis - Baltimore Ravens - Linebacker
Terrence Magee - Seattle Seahawks - Running Back
Ronald Martin - New York Jets - Safety
Tyrann Mathieu - Arizona Cardinals - Safety
Zach Mettenberger - Pittsburgh Steelers - Quarterback
Jalen Mills - Philadelphia Eagles - Cornerback
Barkevious Mingo - New England Patriots - Linebacker
Kevin Minter - Arizona Cardinals - Linebacker
Patrick Peterson - Arizona Cardinals - Cornerback
Eric Reid - San Francisco 49ers - Safety
Perry Riley Jr. - Oakland Raiders - Linebacker
Rashard Robinson - San Francisco 49ers - Cornerback
Russell Shepard - Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Wide Receiver
Kelvin Sheppard - New York Giants - Linebacker
Trai Turner - Carolina Panthers - Guard
Spencer Ware - Kansas City Chiefs - Running Back
Andrew Whitworth - Cincinnati Bengals - Offensive Tackle
Kyle Williams - Buffalo Bills - Defensive Tackle
Brad Wing - New York Giants - Punter
Al Woods - Tennessee Titans - Nose Tackle
James Wright - Cincinnati Bengals - Wide Receiver
Kenny Hilliard - Houston Texans - Running Back

That's 47. Who am I missing?

Note: You expect a lot of reserves, but the vast majority of these guys are not only starters, but stars

This post was edited on 1/17/17 at 11:52 pm

Posted by BookSack

Member since Nov 2016

35 posts

Posted on 1/18/17 at 5:01 am to tigerskin

Step 1) Post this link To SEC rant
Step 2) Watch them squeal and just end the argument by saying something like "L6U" or "21-0"