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re: Wow ESPN "Mel & Todd - dumb and dumber" ripping Mett right now.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 2:09 pm to Dudebro2
Posted on 5/6/14 at 2:09 pm to Dudebro2
Why does the NFL still use urine tests when hair samples are more accurate and can't be covered? The place where I work gave up urine testing years ago. When they went to the hair testing, many longtime employees lost their job.
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Posted on 5/6/14 at 2:10 pm to rickyh
probably because the nfl really does not care...they just test because they have to
or
they are so cheap that they just use urine tests still
or
they are so cheap that they just use urine tests still
Posted on 5/6/14 at 2:13 pm to redfieldk717
Because they don't care. They test like once a year in a small window after they give players notice, right?
Hair tests would condemn the NFL
Hair tests would condemn the NFL
Posted on 5/6/14 at 2:14 pm to massiveattack
They wouldn't have any players left
Posted on 5/6/14 at 2:14 pm to redfieldk717
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do you not think he was rehabbing his arse off even if he wasn't working out at the combine?
don't know the answer to that only Mett and his trainers do. It is absolutely possible that he flew his trainers to Indy and worked his arse off so much so that he cramped up and had to drink a lot of water because he was dehydrated. Yes it is possible. What are the probabilities of it. Probably extremely low, considering that you know you are going to be taking the Wonderlic test along with meeting 32 NFL teams that are going to barrage you with all sorts of questions including questions of your past problems. The general rule of thought would not to be overly physically tired so that you can concentrate on the mental aspects. But to answer you question directly it is possible.
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do you remember him participating in pro day? do you think he was able to do that by sitting on his arse all day like you think he is doing?
absolutely everyone has stated he was ahead of schedule and the only way that happens is to work your arse off.
It is all what are the probabilities given the circumstances. He definitely has some explaining to do but it is not as bad as a failed drug test because he tested positive for an illegal drug.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 2:16 pm to massiveattack
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Was drug tested.
All
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went to the combine and didn't work out
Zack Mettenberger
Aaron Murray
Adam Muema, RB
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coming off a knee surgery
Zack Mettenberger
Aaron Murray
So given the fact that you have no idea the degree of similarity of the surgeries of these QBs or how either of their bodies were responding to treatment....
Why convict Mett before ANYTHING concrete is said?
Posted on 5/6/14 at 2:27 pm to massiveattack
You do realize that working out is not the only cause of dehydration , right? Or only reason they'd advise him to drink more water. Idk, wtf happened but all these conspiracy theories are stretches
This post was edited on 5/6/14 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 5/6/14 at 2:38 pm to chilge1
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Zack Mettenberger
Aaron Murray
So given the fact that you have no idea the degree of similarity of the surgeries of these QBs or how either of their bodies were responding to treatment....
Murray's surgery was at least 45 days before ZM's, so likely little to compare there unless AM had unreported setbacks.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 2:40 pm to massiveattack
It's as likely to be B.S. as it is a legitimate medical issue. Not saying you're right or wrong... could be nothing, could be weed, could be steroids.
All I know is that to proclaim that his story is "pure BS" is to perpetuate a story that is and should be a non-issue but likely WILL have implications on the guy's future.
All I know is that to proclaim that his story is "pure BS" is to perpetuate a story that is and should be a non-issue but likely WILL have implications on the guy's future.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 2:41 pm to tirebiter
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Murray's surgery was at least 45 days before ZM's, so likely little to compare there unless AM had unreported setbacks.
Thanks. I saw somewhere that Murray's was in Nov. I think. Didn't remember when Zack got his done, just that it was well after the Arky game.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 2:44 pm to Tigah32
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You sir are a fricking moron. His piss test was flagged because there wasn't enough urine
Why are you calling him a moron? You just made yourself look like one with your statement
Diluted does not equal "not enough"
Chill out.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 2:44 pm to Schmelly
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You do realize that working out is not the only cause of dehydration , right?
Yes but that is the story his camp has put out as to why he was dehydrated and why his urine sample was diluted.
So now they have to explain the explanation because there are holes in the explanation that don't make sense either. Not saying it isn't true just saying Ricky Ricardo said it best "chu hav sum splaining to do"
Posted on 5/6/14 at 2:49 pm to massiveattack
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I strongly am leaning weed.
Probably not because weed takes way longer to get out of your system and probably would have come back as a positive hit. Depending on how long ago it was done.
Given the information at hand regarding having major knee surgery, way ahead on the rehabbing so much so that he worked out at the LSU pro-day. Given that information if he was truly trying to mask something more than likely it was PED's of some sort.
But that just like everything else is just speculation.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 2:50 pm to idlewatcher
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Why are you calling him a moron? You just made yourself look like one with your statement
Diluted does not equal "not enough"
Chill out.
Um, outhere in the real world diluted does in fact mean not enough concentration of urine, which I'm sure is what that guy was implying.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 4:19 pm to lsupride87
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So if they take the temperature right away why dont they test for dilution right away? And I am not attacking you, but as a fellow poster who has taken alot of drug test as well, dont you think it is a little silly of the NFL?
So I actually asked our trainers this once, because I usually had to retake my test right away, but my last time they sent it to the lab and had me retake it a week later. The answer they test it by shade only on site so and is a little subjective, they can do the real test for risk of contamination. They are pretty good about calling it on site. I won't be surprised if at the NFL combine people had to retake on site because it obviously was to diluted.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 4:29 pm to Dudebro2
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Probably not because weed takes way longer to get out of your system and probably would have come back as a positive hit. Depending on how long ago it was done.
you can be an every day smoker and if you drink enough water not a single trace would show up. It's why producing a diluted test is automatically a red flag and isn't a good start for mett.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 4:43 pm to Lakeboy7
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Of course he took PEDs to speed up his recovery, so what? I dont think it hurts him at all. If a team likes that arm they draft him.
Agree
Posted on 5/6/14 at 4:51 pm to Dudebro2
Anybody see how this shite just leaked out on the news three days before the start of the draft? I think some shite is in the work to get Mett at a bargain.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 5:00 pm to Datbayoubengal
Was it leaked or released? This happens every year
Posted on 5/6/14 at 5:20 pm to Dudebro2
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They said that Mett should be taken off the board of all NFL teams after his failed drug test at the NFL combine.
There is a difference between he tested positive and he failed the test. The media people just run with the stories and headlines that will get more readers. It's unfortunate. If Mett did not test positive and it's because of doctor's orders that he "failed" the test, then he should come out and hold a brief press conference to clear the air, that way the talking heads can get their sh*t straight.
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