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re: WoW. Curley Hallman was really that Bad
Posted on 8/13/16 at 9:22 am to TommyDaTiger
Posted on 8/13/16 at 9:22 am to TommyDaTiger
Stupid question maybe, but who was Hudson?
Posted on 8/13/16 at 9:25 am to timm6971463
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sabin rode them to Miami and espn glorified him into being the recruiter that every body thinks he is!
Saban is glorified because he is great, not great because he's glorified.
Posted on 8/13/16 at 9:28 am to timm6971463
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sabin rode them to Miami and espn glorified him into being the recruiter that every body thinks he is!
Don't go there. Its better to keep your mouth shut than to expose your self.
Thinks he is?
Saban has recruited every place he was been. Some of the players that he recruited at Michigan St were All Pro for a decade in the NFL.
He signed a kid at LSU that Dinardo didn't have on his recruiting list, who then started for the Giants for about eight years.
Saban recruits and they produce on the field.
Posted on 8/13/16 at 2:55 pm to DallasTiger
With out Espn singing praises sabin wouldnt be in SEC right now !
Posted on 8/13/16 at 6:36 pm to FLObserver
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LSU was average at best starting from the 60's.
''58, '59, and '61were most dominant LSU teams ever. '61 team lost opener to a decent Rice team, then went undefeated to beat a good Colorado team in bowl game. '62 and '63 teams beat Arkansas and Texas in Cotton Bowl. LSU football didn't just start in 2000. '58 was undefeated Natl Champs, '59 just missed by being stopped at goalline by Tenn. and being relegated to a replay of Ole Piss in the Sugar.
Posted on 8/13/16 at 7:05 pm to Old Money
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quote: In other words, it is literally below LSU's own average? At the time no, the 2000's have upped our average a nice bit.
BS comparison. I haven't gone back to count, but our out of conference schedule after 2000 got littered with at least 50 to 60 rent-a-wins. WKY, UAB, NELa,, NMSU, ULoL, etc.
Prior to the 2000's, we played Big10, Big8 (SWC), PAC10, Notre Dame, Miami,ACC ...
Not all world beaters but not the patsies that that were scheduled since.
Yeah, yeah, I heard the the excuses...nobody good would schedule us home and home. I don't buy it. Coming to Tiger Stadium was and is a prestige trip even for a major opponent, with practically guaranteed natl. TV exposure.
Posted on 8/13/16 at 7:15 pm to FLObserver
In the 60's and 70's Cholly Mac's program was pretty good. You could generally count on 8 or so wins out of 11 games and a minor bowl, at a time when there wasn't a bowl on every street corner. They weren't contenders but were definitely better than average.
Hallman was so bad that he finished his coaching career at Muscle Shoals High School, resigning under pressure after four straight losing years. I almost feel sorry for him.
Fun fact - Les Miles has a better winning percentage at LSU than Nick Saban.
Hallman was so bad that he finished his coaching career at Muscle Shoals High School, resigning under pressure after four straight losing years. I almost feel sorry for him.
Fun fact - Les Miles has a better winning percentage at LSU than Nick Saban.
Posted on 8/13/16 at 8:02 pm to FLObserver
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LSU was average at best starting from the 60's.
Yea the Natty in '59 really ran the program into the ground.
Posted on 8/13/16 at 8:09 pm to prplhze2000
quote:no. Archer was a solid coach gave zero fricks about recruiting.
And Archer was even worse
Hallman had ZERO redeeming qualities.
Posted on 8/13/16 at 8:59 pm to LoyalTiger
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Considering LSU was not ranked in the final polls in 10 of those 20 seasons through the 60's and 70's. And the years they were ranked, their average ranking was 10.
Um, for a number of years in the 1960s, the poll only ranked the top TEN teams.
Posted on 8/13/16 at 9:07 pm to FLObserver
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LSU was average at best starting from the 60's.
You do realize that LSU had 16 straight winning seasons from 1958-73, right? That's also the same duration as the current winning-season streak (16 straight from 2000-15).
This post was edited on 8/13/16 at 9:23 pm
Posted on 8/13/16 at 9:22 pm to Nuts4LSU
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By the time we fired Archer
Archer wasn't fired; he resigned. There's a difference.
Posted on 8/13/16 at 9:34 pm to MAJ 8ch
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The worst part is that as Florida's AD, Arnsparger goes on to hire Spurrier at Florida a couple years later while LSU wallowed in mediocrity throughout the 90's under the direction of Joe Dean.
Arnsparger also took LSU's "Brodhead Model" to UF and turned their entire athletic program into winners. I think that UF now has more SEC titles in all of the sports all-time than any other school. They did that in just 25 years. LSU used to have the most SEC titles all-time before that, as I recall.
Posted on 8/13/16 at 9:39 pm to prplhze2000
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And Archer was even worse
Based on what. Hallman had 4 straight losing seasons.
Archer had at least two good seasons in 1987 and 1988. We tied Auburn for the SEC.
Posted on 8/14/16 at 2:18 am to Nuts4LSU
now thats funny screw the gumps!
Posted on 8/14/16 at 8:15 am to prplhze2000
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And Archer was even worse
prplhze2000 as I have posted here many times Archer was the recruiter for Bill's team as Bill did not like to recruit.
The only 2 players from La we lost on in the Archer time as coach were Carr and Jackson. None of the players coming out of La at that time made AA or all conference at other schools. Prop. 48 destroyed La recruiting in what turned out to be 4 very thin years of talent. Bill saw the hand writing on the wall and left.
To counter the bad recruiting in LA, LSU turned to Miss and TX and pulled in some highly rated recruits and near all turned into bust, so what was Archer going to do; pull a rabbit out of the hat?
What saved the 87-88 seasons was the 2 transfers from SMU's death penalty, Young and Harmon added needed depth.
Bill left us super thin on DL.
What made Bill was Jerry's recruits, look at the starting rosters in his years at LSU.
Hallman was never a real coach and was to busy doing other things to worry much on the team. The players gave up quick on Hallman, Hallman chased off some good players with issues that would have started and didn't play some that should have started.
Hallman is the 2nd worst coach in LSU history, only John Mathew of Brown being worst than him. John spent to much time trying to tell the players he was better than them and lost more than 1 foot race to a player and ex player on the team. John was an All American at Brown and thought of as one of the fastest players in the country back in the day, well he got to LSU and found out different.
This post was edited on 8/14/16 at 8:17 am
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