re: Would Cannon be considered for the heisman on the modern era?

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I get sick of old people sucking his memory cock. Cannon was great for his time but wouldn't come close to making NFL today.

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I don't think you understand the type of specimen he was.

The Heisman is an individual award but most Heismans have been won by teams in a position to win a NC (ie. Tony Smith and Mark Ingram).

I'm just gland the stars alined for us in 1959 when BC made his fameous punt return to beat Ole Piss and we got one.

His artistry would still hold up.

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A lot of his peers from that playing time wouldn't even make today's teams. Cannon still would.

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like a lot of the current day players leaving early, and then being hugely disappointed? or go back a little further and see some undersized guys playing like monsters for us in the late '60's, early '70's, that's even more subjective than the Cannon argument

I'm going to tell you like i tell a lot of people when this kind of thing is brought up. You can't really judge a guy 30+ years ago to a guy now. The level of competition is way higher than it was back then. A hand timed 4.3 back then is a combine 4.45-5, The average RB going to the NFL runs in the 4.5s at 200-225. How many players you knew were 6'5-6'6 300+ coming out of high school? How many DEs were 6'6 240, 250, running in the 4.6s? How many LBs you knew at 6'2-6.4 230-240lbs running 4.5-4.65? How many TEs you knew who were 6'5-6'6 240-260 running in the 4.6s and 4.5s? Our entire starting secondary in 2011 ran in the 4.5s or faster at the combine. People say it all the time about how they are marveled at these huge giants fast and physically ready as sophmores and juniors in high school.

You can't compare. They were great in their time because they were more athletic than anybody else, now those types of athletes are littered everywhere. Sure you had your ridiculous even by today's standards recruits like Jackson and Campbell and Walker, etc, but a lot of these greats are only that great because of the era in which they played.

This post is not to bash the older guys, but there is a difference.

Would be destroyed.

Any old athlete in any sport would be on the practice squad compared to today's freak athletes.
No disrespect, and all the old great ones would whip my but, but it's true.

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but I don't think he would hang with modern athletes.

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His size and speed fit. And they gave a Heisman to fricking Ingram and nearly gave one to Te'o. Of course Cannon would be considered.

Some folks just don't understand the paradigm.

The next person who says he didn't play against black players needs to be throat-punched.

He DID play against black players and was very successful.

How would he be today against today's players- who the hell knows- but I would assume his training regimen would allow him to keep up with the bigger/stronger/faster players of today.

These debates are silly, because he only really needs to be judged by how he did when he played against the competition of his time.

I'm sure theres a lot of scientists smarter now that Einstein was. Do we say "Einstein is over-rated because he would not be up to snuff with today's scientific geniuses"?

So you are saying Wilt would only be a practice squadder? Jim Brown? Johny U? JORDAN? Won't get into the Cannon argument, but will say he played 90% + both ways in an era when substitions were severely limited. Coach Dietzel always said that to him, the greatest thing about the punt return was the fact that Cannon was in that great a shape to make it happen in the 4th quarter on a nite when the heat & humidity were off the charts & he had only been off the field for a few plays the whole game. And he was also All SEC & an All American in track. But your comment bout old timers just shows your age.