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re: Why no call outs of the OL --- they got DOMINATED all night...
Posted on 1/11/12 at 8:59 pm to Fat Bastard
Posted on 1/11/12 at 8:59 pm to Fat Bastard
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really? so JJ had no time ever all night? so JJ has always done well reading defenses when given time???? puhleeeeeze.
You're blind.
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Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:00 pm to mgdtiger
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Ware was slow on getting over to pick up the blitz when jj missed Landry on the long pass and his guy hit jj as he threw
This is very true....had JJ had a second longer, if Ware picked up that blitz, that play could have changed the game.
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:02 pm to mgdtiger
We LSU fans should take a serious look at the OP's point.
If the O line just simply got their asses handed to them all game, then, how did we win on 5 Nov?
AND, why would Miles, WHO WAS AN OFFENSIVE LINEMAN, field an O Line that was so inferior to opposing top talent?
We still need a lot of questions answered. If I were Miles's boss I would not ask him any questions. I would simply give him a brief and severe arse-chewing and let him get back to work. He would have no doubt, however, that I was not happy with his performance at this moment in time.
If the O line just simply got their asses handed to them all game, then, how did we win on 5 Nov?
AND, why would Miles, WHO WAS AN OFFENSIVE LINEMAN, field an O Line that was so inferior to opposing top talent?
We still need a lot of questions answered. If I were Miles's boss I would not ask him any questions. I would simply give him a brief and severe arse-chewing and let him get back to work. He would have no doubt, however, that I was not happy with his performance at this moment in time.
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:06 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
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Hurst also allowed Upshaw to go completely unblocked
don't think that was Hurst fault. The entire line blocked to the left and the RB went to the left and not the right. We wound up with TE,OT and RB all to block 1 guy on the left and nobody on upshaw. Either the RB fricked up or didnt get the call on protection.
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:12 pm to ultratiger89
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You're blind.
and you know nothing about football. Ever played line? So, JJ was a very good reader of defenses when he had time right? go back and watch some games man. you are the blind one who is clueless.
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:16 pm to LSU91MBA
I agree with the bad OL play. But even with that, up to the beginning of the 4th Qtr we were only one play away from being back in the game. JJ's scrambling ability led Miles to believe that we were just one play away from being back in the game and that play could happen at any second but it didn't. That is why Miles stuck with JJ until it was too late and then he wasn't going to throw JL in there late in the 4th Qtr. I don't agree with all the coaching decisions made Monday night but it is what it is.
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:16 pm to Cadello
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Coach Stud is to blame ..not the players.
Stud the Dud should have left with Crowton.
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:17 pm to Champagne
On Nov 5th we were the more hungry team... We wanted it more.
After 5weeks of hearing how great we were and how strong our resume was.... We simply did not play with the intensity that Bama's D line did.
Also Bama's defense really was stellar....
After 5weeks of hearing how great we were and how strong our resume was.... We simply did not play with the intensity that Bama's D line did.
Also Bama's defense really was stellar....
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:17 pm to Fat Bastard
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and you know nothing about football. Ever played line? So, JJ was a very good reader of defenses when he had time right? go back and watch some games man. you are the blind one who is clueless
Are you saying the oline did not get dominated? Look i played oline and i can tell you they did with out a doubt. That being said there was some of both JJ does hold the ball long and there were open recievers at times. Both QB had faults is my point JJ holds ball way to long and Jlee panicks and throws it up for grabs. But the oline by far played there worse game. Both played hand in hand.
This post was edited on 1/11/12 at 9:19 pm
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:17 pm to LSU91MBA
I think the OLine played bad mostly because Alabama knew exactly what we were going to do. You can only get away with being so predictable when you are bigger and stronger than the other team.
This post was edited on 1/11/12 at 9:19 pm
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:18 pm to paulie
Paulie.... I like your style... WE saw the same game.
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:20 pm to paulie
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I agree with the bad OL play. But even with that, up to the beginning of the 4th Qtr we were only one play away from being back in the game. JJ's scrambling ability led Miles to believe that we were just one play away from being back in the game and that play could happen at any second but it didn't. That is why Miles stuck with JJ until it was too late and then he wasn't going to throw JL in there late in the 4th Qtr. I don't agree with all the coaching decisions made Monday night but it is what it is.
Paulie you are 100% correct but the tard can't handle logic
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:26 pm to LSU91MBA
Bama has a really good defensive front 7, and any logical person should've known that it would be an all out battle.
While the O-line had its struggles, the QB needs a lot of blame as well. He had zero, and I mean zero, pocket presence in the game. Multiple times a simple shuffle up into the pocket would have given him more time. When he did step up, it was simply to run.
While the O-line had its struggles, the QB needs a lot of blame as well. He had zero, and I mean zero, pocket presence in the game. Multiple times a simple shuffle up into the pocket would have given him more time. When he did step up, it was simply to run.
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:27 pm to TheBob
Not to mention they weren't helped out in the least by play calling and formations.
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:36 pm to TheBob
the o-line got it's arse's handed to them all game long. They got physically dominated. The RB's weren't any help either. JJ sucked in that game. JL would have gotton killed in that game. Game plan of trying to run at them was stupid. Should have taken shots down the field early and often to have any chance at all. Doesn't really matter at this point.
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:36 pm to LSU91MBA
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On Nov 5th we were the more hungry team... We wanted it more.
After 5weeks of hearing how great we were and how strong our resume was.... We simply did not play with the intensity that Bama's D line did.
Also Bama's defense really was stellar....
Agreed! Very hard to beat Bama 3 times in a row.
The game Monday night reminded me of the 2002 home game in Tiger Stadium against Bama. Marcus Randall was Saban's QB and we couldn't get the passing game going . We got beat 31-0 in Tiger Stadium with Saban as our coach just one year before we won the NC in 2003. It happens to the best of them!
2002 Bama / LSU Boxscore
Time to lick our wounds and move on. Bama wanted it more Monday night and were hungrier than we were with the 'revenge' factor and their great defensive play. Bama's QB completed just enough passes and at the right times when we thought they were going to run Richardson to keep the chains moving. Got to give them credit for that.
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:40 pm to boxcar willie
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Should have taken shots down the field early and often to have any chance at all.
That is exactly what Bama did but we didn't. Bama came out throwing when we were expecting the run. I kept saying that during the 1st and 2nd Qtrs how surprised I was that they were throwing (away from Claiborne) so much. Even with that though, our D kept us in the game.
We just couldn't make A PLAY on offense to get us back in it and swing the momentum.
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:44 pm to LSU91MBA
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LSU91MBA
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Ok -- let me say --- yep, I would have liked to have seen J Lee for at least a series or two -
what I have not seen is some call out of the O-line --- they were making a LOT of mistakes --- and they were totally man-handled all night.
Our RBs and QB had no shot.... sure we had WRs open at times -- but when the QB has a guy on his back in 0.6 seconds -- he's not going to see the reciever.
My take -- Bama's team simply outplayed LSU. Especially Bama's D-line and LBs vs. LSU offensive line.
AJ McCarron played the game of his career too.
LSU's D played well for for about 50 minutes of the game -- the last 5 - 10 minutes they got tired and were beaten up ... tried to strip the ball and got taken advantage of on inside (and outside) runs.
I think if our O-line could have contained Bama's rush and given JJ any time --- we could have figured something out.... if we would have gotten any sort of running game going --- again no blocking --- that would have kept the defense "honest" as well ---- as it was they simply teed off on our QB and short receivers every play.
Your logic is not wanted here.... JJ don't play on the oline so knowbody cares....
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:47 pm to Corn Dawg Nation
saban knew he would have the same problem with our dline so he had a plan to deal with it.
we didn't. we had already played bama and knew what they were capable of. we had no plan.
JJ is not to blame for miles starting him nor leaving him in there. as scared and nervous as he was, i'm sure he was trying. he didn't get much help. but i blame this on our scheming more than on the oline.
we didn't. we had already played bama and knew what they were capable of. we had no plan.
JJ is not to blame for miles starting him nor leaving him in there. as scared and nervous as he was, i'm sure he was trying. he didn't get much help. but i blame this on our scheming more than on the oline.
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:58 pm to stephendomalley
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but i blame this on our scheming more than on the oline
the thought that we were somehow going to overpower Alabama was rediculous. You could see that that wasn't going to happen from the first game. Plus it was obvious early on that we weren't going to get to the edges. Should have come out throwing down the field on the chance that we might hit a couple and maybe loosen up that d.
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