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re: why do some people on here say that Florida

Posted on 6/28/09 at 12:30 am to
Posted by lsutiger2486
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
6761 posts
Posted on 6/28/09 at 12:30 am to
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You really, really don't want to admit that LSU degree of yours isn't the greatest thing to happen to the work-force since child labors laws.

Get over it. LSU is hot shite in Louisiana, and moderately respected in the rest of the South/country (to a lesser extent). While the quality of the education is debatable, every employer knows how to look up US News & World Report rankings. And it does matter. Don't be a dipshit.


It is not the same with an engineering degree. Since they are in typical high demand everyone typically graduates with and offer or two no matter the circumstance(except last semester because of the new president). As far as the south everyone recruits LSU engineers. It is possible to take your degree elsewhere in the country also.
Posted by Acadien
Member since Nov 2008
3571 posts
Posted on 6/28/09 at 12:37 am to
My original post (the one quoted) wasn't specifically addressing the engineering program. That's like saying ULL is better than LSU because the computer program (whatever the frick it's called, computer science?) is superior to ours. You can't nitpick; LSU is, in general, less respected for it's scholastics than the University of Florida. I'm saying this as a Florida resident, accepted to both schools, who chose LSU.


LSUGrad, I don't care if your VP of HR at fricking Microsoft, your opinion as an "employer" is not the fricking national consensus. By the way, since we're bragging on the internet, I'm 22 years old, make 10 million a year, and frick Brazilian supermodels. Everyone please respect my opinion!
Posted by LSUGrad78
Member since Jan 2005
426 posts
Posted on 6/28/09 at 12:40 am to
LSUGrad, I don't care if your VP of HR at fricking Microsoft, your opinion as an "employer" is not the fricking national consensus. By the way, since we're bragging on the internet, I'm 22 years old, make 10 million a year, and frick Brazilian supermodels. Everyone please respect my opinion!
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Brazilian supermodels are highly over-rated!!!
Posted by lsutiger2486
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
6761 posts
Posted on 6/28/09 at 12:50 am to
I read it as you said an engineering one wasn't marketable. I of course agree with the fact LSU is not that great of a school overall. The state legislature needs to let LSU charge what they need to for them to become better.
Posted by Acadien
Member since Nov 2008
3571 posts
Posted on 6/28/09 at 1:07 am to
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The state legislature needs to let LSU charge what they need to for them to become better.


Increasing tuition may or may not be the answer. I can see both sides of the issue, as someone who wants to see the school work it's way up the rankings, and as somebody who has to pay for the increases.

We might look into what Georgia has done with UGA, because I don't think the UT/UF model will work here (purely based off population)
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24139 posts
Posted on 6/28/09 at 1:49 am to
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Good talking to you too. By the way, one of my very best friends graduated from Rutgers in finance. He is one of the nicest, most intelligent guys I know.



I actually go to Rhodes, but the Rutgers "R" looks almost identical.
Posted by RelocatedPelican
Member since Dec 2008
1042 posts
Posted on 6/28/09 at 2:16 am to
After asking my question I see that those stating LSU ranks 'well' below Florida really don't have an answer worth a damn, which I expected. I graduated from LSU in Computer Engineering, minor in Computer Science ( and one class each short of a second degree in Electrical Engineering and minors in Physics & Math; I was 'done' and choose to seek employment rather than complete those items ). I won't say where I work as I don't need the attention for it, but will say I work for one of the wealthiest companies in the world. At said company, it has been my experience that where your degree comes from is only a meaningful note when looking through resumes. The 'meat' of your resume, the interview, and performing the job, is all up to you.
Posted by Intrepid
Hobe Sound, Florida
Member since Aug 2006
613 posts
Posted on 6/28/09 at 6:21 am to
As the famed Architect Paul Rudolph said, 'It doesn't matter where you go to school, as long as you find out what you need to know' and as Huey Long once said, 'Every man a King'!.
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
31892 posts
Posted on 6/28/09 at 7:51 am to
It is fact that UF is more respected than LSU academically. BUT, that goes only so far.

I have now extended my collection of subordinates to Vanderbilt. I also have managed grads from GT (1 assoc. professor), UTenn, FSU, LSU, Auburn, MSU, Penn (Ivy), Tulane, and LaTech.

In the end, it comes down to ambition, savy, and determination when trudging though the business world post-graduation. I make more than most UF grads with comparable experience.......but, I graduated from LSU. Academic chest thumping ends after you accept your first job.

Now, football braggin' rights go on MUCH longer!
Posted by ultratiger89
Houston, Tx
Member since Aug 2007
3039 posts
Posted on 6/28/09 at 8:07 am to
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I love it when a clueless geek falls for the phony bone misspelling trap.


It was a jeer at the guy, hope he didn't graduate from college yet. That sentence didn't look intentionally mis-spelled, looked like they didn't know how to spell.

like others have said, it's all about what you do with your education. I interviewed a guy for a project engineering position who had a BSEE and a BSME from LSU and a MSEE from Ga Tech, + he had been in the field for 15 years.

He didn't have a clue. Needless to say he didn't get the job.

So you can never tell just because a person has that piece of paper. It opens doors, but it's up to you to get through them.
Posted by SOL
Garland, TX
Member since Jan 2004
2950 posts
Posted on 6/28/09 at 8:18 am to
LSU gets little financial support from the state and from its' alumni.

TX A&M raises $90,000 per student each year.
LSU raises $9,000. I think UF is around $20,000.

This has a lot to do with the rankings in one way or another.

We are not going to have a great ranking when tuition increases are capped at 5%. In Texas,
there is no cap and the legislature does not monkey with it. Each school has the authority to set it's own rates. UT/A&M have not had a single digit increase in at least 6 or 7 years. LSU has never had a double digit increase. UT/A&M has a permanent fund which owns assets worth around $30 billion. It was set up in the 1800s. The corrupt politicians have squandered everything LSU may have once had as a permanent fund.

Plus the state is now cutting the LSU budget by 30 - 40 million.

It's all about the $$$$$ and LSU is falling short. In fact the stated goal is to one day reach the southern average, which is low compared to the national average.

When your leaders state that one day they hope to be average, you are not going to get much respect from any rating organizations. That's the same as saying we're not even going to try.

LSU has a lot of potential, but it will never reach it or be recognized until it is properly funded.
Posted by tigerinridgeland
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2006
7636 posts
Posted on 6/28/09 at 9:29 am to
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And remember, once you get to college, the quality of your education is really up to you.


Does someone who graduates with an excellent gpa from Florida know more or is that person more competent than someone who graduates from LSU with similar grades and courses? Probably not. A smart person who graduated from LSU is just as competent as a smart person who graduated from Florida.

Are there differences in programs and departments? Certainly. Are they as significant or as important as many people think? No.

Rankings are overrated; they tend to be more about perception than reality.

And by the way, I work in higher education with students who graduated from schools all across the country. The college that one attends matters much less than the natural talents of the person combined with a lot of hard work and discipline. I would rather work with a smart, disciplined, hard working person who graduated from ULM than a lazy, undisciplined person who graduated from Vanderbilt.

People worry way too much about rankings like U.S. News.
This post was edited on 6/28/09 at 9:31 am
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68183 posts
Posted on 6/28/09 at 10:15 am to
That video is so damned discouraging. I can't believe that an illiterate like her actually has the power to control many aspects of my life. What an absolute joke.
Posted by TigerSpy
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2006
9897 posts
Posted on 6/28/09 at 10:59 am to
Nearly every objective ranking?
Posted by TigerSpy
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2006
9897 posts
Posted on 6/28/09 at 11:01 am to
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It's not like either is the top academic school in the nation.



It has one of the finest public business schools in the nation.
Posted by TigerSpy
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2006
9897 posts
Posted on 6/28/09 at 11:02 am to
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Also our Mass Communications school is tops.


This is flatly wrong, and I am a grad of said school.

Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
14449 posts
Posted on 6/28/09 at 11:41 am to
I'm in Jacksonvile, Fl. and i'm the biggest LSU sports fan there is but it cracks me up to come on this board and see how LSU people believe they are an academic school compared with the upper sec academic schools. I worked in baton rouge as a business analyst with three LSU grads and they didn't know shite so i had to do my work plus theres.What criteria do you need to get into LSU? i believe be a LA. resident and have some easily achievable score to qualify to go. There is literally no competiton to get in. Hate to burst you academic genius bubbles but outside of Louisiana you guys are up there with Moo State.
This post was edited on 6/28/09 at 11:52 am
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59104 posts
Posted on 6/28/09 at 11:55 am to
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What criteria do you need to get into LSU? i believe be a LA. resident and have some easily achievable score to qualify to go. There is literally no competiton to get in.

I agree LSU is not noted as an great academic school, but why is being easy to get into mean its not good academically?
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
14449 posts
Posted on 6/28/09 at 12:04 pm to
This is one of the fundamentals of being a top flight school because the university of Florida has stiff competition meaning that to get in you have to go above and beyond the average things such as grade point average. LSU has little competiton except maybe there vet school and maybe even there law school but overall not hard at all to get accepted. Just fill out application and like magic your in.
Posted by ngremi1
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2008
48 posts
Posted on 6/28/09 at 12:15 pm to
I think this should be restated because I don't think a lot of people know this about LSU and it's something to be proud of:

LSU is the Number 2 Landscape Architecture school in the nation, and the Center for Internal Audit at LSU is the best in the WORLD.
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