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Why do most people blame coaches and never the players?
Posted on 6/11/17 at 2:14 am
Posted on 6/11/17 at 2:14 am
When lsu loses, or is even down a little in games, the pitchforks immediately come out for the head coach or manager but not the players.
Players often don't execute and in most sports, especially baseball, in-game decisions are far less important than individual performance at the plate/in the field.
If a guy strikes out by swinging at shitty pitches, I hate to break it to you but it's not CPM's fault. Yeah, he controls substitutions but the top of the line up going 2-15 through the 7th inning is not on him.
Oh, and reread the game thread for some quality entertainment. Talk about some overreactionary bitches. I get frustrated as the next guy but typing this like, "frick this team", "This LSU team is sorry" and "Game fricking over" when we're losing by a run is fricking pathetic. Change your tampons and go cheer for another team.
Players often don't execute and in most sports, especially baseball, in-game decisions are far less important than individual performance at the plate/in the field.
If a guy strikes out by swinging at shitty pitches, I hate to break it to you but it's not CPM's fault. Yeah, he controls substitutions but the top of the line up going 2-15 through the 7th inning is not on him.
Oh, and reread the game thread for some quality entertainment. Talk about some overreactionary bitches. I get frustrated as the next guy but typing this like, "frick this team", "This LSU team is sorry" and "Game fricking over" when we're losing by a run is fricking pathetic. Change your tampons and go cheer for another team.
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Posted on 6/11/17 at 2:16 am to ClientNumber9
It's the coaches job to prepare the player and put him in the best situation to succeed
Posted on 6/11/17 at 2:18 am to ClientNumber9
its like these people dont understand that baseball is a random game. the best players in the world fail 7 out of 10 times and the best team isnt always going to win. trying to find someone to blame every time something goes wrong is fricking stupid
the only people that have a right to be upset at how we are playing are the players and coaches that spend thousands of hours a year practicing to represent LSU
the only people that have a right to be upset at how we are playing are the players and coaches that spend thousands of hours a year practicing to represent LSU
This post was edited on 6/11/17 at 2:20 am
Posted on 6/11/17 at 2:19 am to ClientNumber9
Much easier to blame one person than the whole team or program.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 2:43 am to ClientNumber9
The coach sets the lineup. There's no reason for Beau Jordan to be in it unless Jordan is fellating PM on a daily basis.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 2:45 am to ClientNumber9
Because fan stands for fanatic
Posted on 6/11/17 at 3:11 am to ClientNumber9
Because college players are kids and not getting paid the coaches are multi millionaires who've done this for decades. These Children are following the millionaires orders and are under the pressure of having to perform at an elite level without any of the perks a pro, which is what a coach is, has.
This post was edited on 6/11/17 at 3:16 am
Posted on 6/11/17 at 6:11 am to ClientNumber9
quote:Main answer, these are college players not pros, and this board's guidelines are that attacking players risks a ban.
Why do most people blame coaches and never the players?
That said, Beau Jordan definitely took a beating in the game thread. The only coaching angle that was tied to that, was leaving him in the game.
Kramer Robertson also took a lot of heat, and I don't think there was any coaching angle towards his play.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 6:19 am to ClientNumber9
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Talk about some overreactionary bitches
New to the Rant?
First of April had the coaches, pitchers, hitters all sucking. Never mind that the team spent the year ranked in or around the top ten in the nation. The staff sucked and the team was crap.
Even now our clown fans wait for a mistake so they can jump in to to say, see, I told you so.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 6:44 am to ClientNumber9
quote:Not true at all.
Why do most people blame coaches and never the players?
Venom is widespread.
I think you've read a lot of blame in football past regarding JJ. To say you haven't is silly.
In a smaller perspective, it's easier to criticize something like the game last night. Right when Beau lead off the inning on base, many thought CPM should pinch run. Then to end the inning, Beau got thrown out on what could have been a sacrifice fly, but got tagged at the plate.
quote:Posting statements like this makes you look dumb.
Change your tampons and go cheer for another team.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 6:49 am to Number 31
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Number 31
Why do most people blame coaches and never the players?
by Number 31The coach sets the lineup. There's no reason for Beau Jordan to be in it unless Jordan is fellating PM on a daily basis
Beau got a timely hit in the 8th inning
Good coaching
Posted on 6/11/17 at 7:02 am to ClientNumber9
I don't understand why there has to be blame assigned anyway. Especially baseball which is in a large portion playing the numbers on any given decision; probability isn't fate.
Bad slide by Beau, good throw by Mangum, good play by catcher?
Maybe Beau's jump was a little slow; maybe Cain's "go" was half a tick slow.
Maybe all above. So do Mangum and Lovelady get credit and there's no blame? So do you blame Beau, PM, or Cain and give no credit to MSU? Thus are the pitfalls of blame.
Worth noting in regards to pinch runner in the 7th for Beau that if Beau doesn't single in the 8th Watson isn't on third for run #4 off of Pap's sac fly.
Bad slide by Beau, good throw by Mangum, good play by catcher?
Maybe Beau's jump was a little slow; maybe Cain's "go" was half a tick slow.
Maybe all above. So do Mangum and Lovelady get credit and there's no blame? So do you blame Beau, PM, or Cain and give no credit to MSU? Thus are the pitfalls of blame.
Worth noting in regards to pinch runner in the 7th for Beau that if Beau doesn't single in the 8th Watson isn't on third for run #4 off of Pap's sac fly.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 7:07 am to Byron Bojangles III
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It's the coaches job to prepare the player and put him in the best situation to succeed
So coaching them to the #4 national seed and hosting a Super Regional isn't putting them in the best situation to succeed?
Posted on 6/11/17 at 7:20 am to ClientNumber9
shite rolls down hill for a reason
Posted on 6/11/17 at 7:27 am to ZBeaux10
Why doesn't PM get any credit for calling the Hit-&-Run in the 8th? It kept us out of a DP on BJ's single.
Players still must execute, coaches can't do it all.
Players still must execute, coaches can't do it all.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 7:39 am to ClientNumber9
Baseball is such a game of strategy, any close game will be easy to pin on the coaching staff.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 7:43 am to Number 31
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There's no reason for Beau Jordan to be in it unless Jordan is fellating PM on a daily basis.
And yet at one point last night, he had a .341 BA/RISP. Are you retarded?
This post was edited on 6/11/17 at 7:44 am
Posted on 6/11/17 at 7:45 am to I20goon
quote:
I don't understand why there has to be blame assigned anyway. Especially baseball which is in a large portion playing the numbers on any given decision; probability isn't fate.
Bad slide by Beau, good throw by Mangum, good play by catcher?
Maybe Beau's jump was a little slow; maybe Cain's "go" was half a tick slow.
Maybe all above. So do Mangum and Lovelady get credit and there's no blame? So do you blame Beau, PM, or Cain and give no credit to MSU? Thus are the pitfalls of blame.
Worth noting in regards to pinch runner in the 7th for Beau that if Beau doesn't single in the 8th Watson isn't on third for run #4 off of Pap's sac fly.
Great post.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 7:47 am to Byron Bojangles III
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It's the coaches job to prepare the player and put him in the best situation to succeed
that's right. and they have lots of other duties as well.
BUT, preparing a player and the player actually successfully executing at a specific moment are two different things. all humans make mistakes. and baseball is a game where success one third of the time (at the plate) is considered damn good; that means FAILURE two thirds of the time is expected NO MATTER WHAT PREPARATION.
some LSU fans really get old when they ALWAYS call for the coaches head and will defend their postion until death. I guess they learned this behavior from their dads and granddads as I have been hearing this "fire the coach" mantra for about 60 years.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 7:48 am to LSU Groupee
I never understand it either
I think both share blame but it's stupid when a guy strikes out with the bases loaded then the coach should behave coached him better but if he hits a grand slam then the player is clutch
At the end of the day the player is the one who has to pull through.
I think both share blame but it's stupid when a guy strikes out with the bases loaded then the coach should behave coached him better but if he hits a grand slam then the player is clutch
At the end of the day the player is the one who has to pull through.
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