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re: Why didn't Zach submit hair sample to prove innocence?

Posted on 5/7/14 at 7:47 pm to
Posted by LSUintheNW
At your mom’s house
Member since Aug 2009
35749 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 7:47 pm to
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at this point, I would say no...after a few years of developement, maybe....


exactly my thoughts which is why I figured he'd be a 3rd rounder. Might be a 4th now.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39980 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 7:48 pm to
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Soulja, The NFL couldn't stop him from getting and independent drug analysis from a lab to clear his name, come on dude

Lol at YOU telling someone to "come on dude".
Posted by Dodd
Member since Oct 2003
21048 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 7:48 pm to
Mett is no different than Ryan Mallett. He will never be a franchise QB
Posted by LSUSoulja08
Member since Oct 2007
16969 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 7:48 pm to
has be an alter/troll
Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2006
40881 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 7:49 pm to
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Mett is no different than Ryan Mallett. He will never be a franchise QB


K. We'll see.
Posted by LSUTDIG
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2014
74 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 7:50 pm to
Where am I wrong about going to get independent to another sample
Posted by LSUSoulja08
Member since Oct 2007
16969 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 7:50 pm to
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Mett is no different than Ryan Mallett.


L.O.L.
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 8:12 pm to
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Where am I wrong about going to get independent to another sample



We don't know that he hasn't.
The story is an example of sensationalist journalism. There was no source given and no follow up. We don't know what Mett and/or his advisers might have communicated to the teams.
The same is true for the others named in the leak. All we have is an undocumented story from an unknown source. Not exactly my idea of professionalism.
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35264 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 8:19 pm to
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Wow. And I thought OP was ignorant
I said unfortunately. We don't know what Zach was taking, if anything. He did come back fast from his injury.
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35264 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 8:21 pm to
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Wow. And I thought OP was ignorant
I guess you have "inside info".
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
23057 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 8:22 pm to
These drug tests are called "intelligence test".

They are so easy to pass, you have to be a chronic users or a dumbass to fail it. His result is what it is, move along.
Posted by RainChance0
Houston
Member since May 2013
541 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 8:24 pm to
I loved your response. That was awesome.
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35264 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 8:25 pm to
Is it outside the realm of possibility that he was taking something to help his injury? Because NOBODY takes performance enhancing substances in the NFL.
Posted by higgsBoson
Democratic Party
Member since Jan 2012
1408 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 8:45 pm to
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These drug tests are called "intelligence test". They are so easy to pass, you have to be a chronic users or a dumbass to fail it. His result is what it is, move along.


This is true. Plenty of people drink too much water to try and rig the test and this happens. My thing is that I know of people who have done this and passed. So for Mett to fail means he was really trying too hard probably and overdid it. I don't think there's any way he "accidentally" drank too much water.
I doubt it was for PEDs. I'm sure he smoked a joint or something a few days before and got paranoid.
It is what it is, but I see no reason to suspect that Mett has an issue with drugs.
It could cost him a round or so, but he will still get drafted.

Also, it seems like OP is an Aggie troll. Just leave him alone if he's stupid enough to think that he can make a new name on this site, put his team as LSU, and get away with trolling at 1 post.
Posted by ffishstik
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
4128 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:10 pm to
Moscona had one of the trainers that was working with him on the air and she said that he was instructed to drink extra fluids as part of his rehab to battle cramps. I'm working through multiple ligament tears in my ankle right now and I can tell you that you DO cramp up, and water helps.

As someone mentioned earlier, the LSU staff has also stated that if they do a drug test and the sample is diluted, they make the player wait until they get a good sample. Drinking excess water does not flush your system out, it just dilutes the sample to the point that the specific gravity is too low for the test to work. All that they needed to do was to have him wait a little while and take another, which I've he offered to do. The NFL policy is stupid.

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The story is an example of sensationalist journalism. There was no source given and no follow up. We don't know what Mett and/or his advisers might have communicated to the teams.
The same is true for the others named in the leak. All we have is an undocumented story from an unknown source. Not exactly my idea of professionalism.



And THIS. It is illegal to disclose this info, so whatever sack of shite leaked these results should be prosecuted. Of course, that won't happen.


Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20018 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:27 pm to
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I think this has zero affect on his draft status.


Has no one considered this might be one of those patented smokescreens that a gm leaked to get value? I mean this and the back problems.

Anyway, I agree this will noy affect him at all. No nfl team gives a shite about an inconclusive drug test unless it is a top 10 pick. Half the league smokes regularly.
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:29 pm to
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Plenty of people drink too much water to try and rig the test and this happens. My thing is that I know of people who have done this and passed. So for Mett to fail means he was really trying too hard probably and overdid it. I don't think there's any way he "accidentally" drank too much water.

Unless he was instructed to do so because of cramping which happens frequently when rehabbing.

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I'm sure he smoked a joint or something a few days before and got paranoid.

You are sure of this? How? Apparently you have some specific information we don't have. Please share it.

quote:

It could cost him a round or so, but he will still get drafted.


Costing "a round or so" translates into serious money.

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Also, it seems like OP is an Aggie troll. Just leave him alone if he's stupid enough to think that he can make a new name on this site, put his team as LSU, and get away with trolling at 1 post.



This from one of this site's master alter/troll practicioners.
Posted by higgsBoson
Democratic Party
Member since Jan 2012
1408 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:48 pm to
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You are sure of this? How? Apparently you have some specific information we don't have. Please share it.



You're right. I shouldn't jump to conclusions. No one knows what really happened besides Mettenberger. I'm just going off of what I know about people trying to rig drug tests.
I don't know anything about rehab for this kind of injury. I don't know how much water you are required to drink.
I'm just saying that people I know who have gotten a diluted sample drank about a gallon of water before the test. About 50% of people I have talked to who did this passed and 50% failed. So Mett must have drank a bunch of water right before.

quote:

This from one of this site's master alter/troll practicioners.


No idea what you are talking about here. I'm definitely not an alter. Would be curious who you think I'm an alter of though.
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 5/8/14 at 2:23 am to
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not mature enough in my opinion


This is a stupid statement

He's been nothing but a class act at LSU and was a true leader.

Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 5/8/14 at 7:19 am to
Why didn't they make him give another sample that day?
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