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re: Why aren't student tickets free as they once were?
Posted on 10/17/13 at 8:40 am to JEAUXBLEAUX
Posted on 10/17/13 at 8:40 am to JEAUXBLEAUX
I don't know first hand any more, but the ID thing is bull shite from what I hear. I used to go to games when I was in high school and my bro was a student and all we needed was the ticket to get in the gate. Why make it so hard for people to get in? If the person has a ticket, scan it and let them in. Is it really not this way any more?
Posted on 10/17/13 at 9:25 am to JEAUXBLEAUX
Inflation. $0 in the 70's is now $12.
Posted on 10/17/13 at 9:27 am to sec13rowBBseat28
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I think they were $3 a ticket when I attented back in the early/mid 90's.
yup and you could pick those sons a bitches up on the way to class on thurs/fri in front of the union.
Posted on 10/17/13 at 9:29 am to JEAUXBLEAUX
The way to fix the problem with student attendance is to (largely) deregualte student attendance. It has become very regulated over the years, largely because demand once outstripped supply for student tix.
Solutions:
1. No announcement necessary and no official policy, but subject the students to no more scrutiny than "adult sections" on bringing "stuff" into the game. Those who wish to drink are less likely to leave if they can sneak in enough hooch to get their young, thirsty selves through the game.
2. Make it cheaper to attend. E.g., first come, first served with an ID swipe (and if they must, make the ID swipe result in a charge on the account). This will encourage students to go even if they don't have tix in advance or even the extra jingle to pay for a ticket at the time. Some will be turned away but that only makes it a bigger deal to get in. (I suppose you could stick with whatever group seating they have for frats/law school/etc. if that still exists).
3. Make nonstudent guest tix easy to get, reasonably priced, and usable by bearer. Yes, this creates a secondary market for big games but I say the main goal is a packed, preferably raucous student section.
All of these have some potentially negative externalities, but they would help put and keep young fannies in the seats so they can continue serenading us old folks with the dulcet tones of "Suck that Tiger ..."
Solutions:
1. No announcement necessary and no official policy, but subject the students to no more scrutiny than "adult sections" on bringing "stuff" into the game. Those who wish to drink are less likely to leave if they can sneak in enough hooch to get their young, thirsty selves through the game.
2. Make it cheaper to attend. E.g., first come, first served with an ID swipe (and if they must, make the ID swipe result in a charge on the account). This will encourage students to go even if they don't have tix in advance or even the extra jingle to pay for a ticket at the time. Some will be turned away but that only makes it a bigger deal to get in. (I suppose you could stick with whatever group seating they have for frats/law school/etc. if that still exists).
3. Make nonstudent guest tix easy to get, reasonably priced, and usable by bearer. Yes, this creates a secondary market for big games but I say the main goal is a packed, preferably raucous student section.
All of these have some potentially negative externalities, but they would help put and keep young fannies in the seats so they can continue serenading us old folks with the dulcet tones of "Suck that Tiger ..."
Posted on 10/17/13 at 9:31 am to JEAUXBLEAUX
they never were free. your mommy and daddy paid for them via the "student activity" fee.
i know you are older now and you are not naive. and of course it's money. the arms race requires it to be a top program. sad but true.
i know you are older now and you are not naive. and of course it's money. the arms race requires it to be a top program. sad but true.
Posted on 10/17/13 at 9:34 am to JEAUXBLEAUX
There's a couple of reasons this can't work. Most importantly, demand for general public seating. There are more people willing to pay thousands for season tickets than there used to be. If student tickets were payed for by student fees, then every student would have to be guaranteed a ticket. That's leaving a lot of money on the table if you're LSU.
Posted on 10/17/13 at 9:46 am to Wayne Campbell
They no longer do date tickets and it's also a complete hassle to give your ticket to somebody else because student IDs are supposed to match the ticket. You can pay to upgrade the ticket if you wish to sell it to a non-student, but they limit the number of these for each game.
Posted on 10/17/13 at 10:57 am to Clark W Griswold
It's not about money, it's about controlling the number of people in the stadium.
In the 1983 Washington game, so many students showed up that there was no room on the aisles for anybody to move. It led to a record crowd of 83,000+, but the fire marshal got nervous and required LSU to do something to limit the number of students. As a result, a new system of tickets and date tickets was created, and you could no longer just walk up with your student ID.
The same thing happened in Basketball a few years later. I served on a committee that mapped out a similar plan for the PMAC to deal with the large crowds Shaq and CJ were pulling. I graduated as it was implemented, but at least I got to meet Dale Brown.
Neither plan ever affected me because I was in the band for both sports. But my roommate always had to get the tickets before the season started.
Hope this helps.
GEAUX TIGERS
In the 1983 Washington game, so many students showed up that there was no room on the aisles for anybody to move. It led to a record crowd of 83,000+, but the fire marshal got nervous and required LSU to do something to limit the number of students. As a result, a new system of tickets and date tickets was created, and you could no longer just walk up with your student ID.
The same thing happened in Basketball a few years later. I served on a committee that mapped out a similar plan for the PMAC to deal with the large crowds Shaq and CJ were pulling. I graduated as it was implemented, but at least I got to meet Dale Brown.
Neither plan ever affected me because I was in the band for both sports. But my roommate always had to get the tickets before the season started.
Hope this helps.
GEAUX TIGERS
Posted on 10/17/13 at 10:59 am to Tigerbait46
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student IDs are supposed to match the ticket
Wrong. I used my friend's ID and a different friend's ticket this past weekend. It worked just fine. Back before I graduated, I always used a different ticket that didn't match my ID.
I know, I am a tPOS for pretending to be a student again. At least I stayed all four quarters.
This post was edited on 10/17/13 at 11:01 am
Posted on 10/17/13 at 11:01 am to JEAUXBLEAUX
The Student Tickets were Never Free, they were a part of your Student Fees at registration.
Posted on 10/17/13 at 11:20 am to Tigerbait46
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a complete hassle to give your ticket to somebody else because student IDs are supposed to match the ticket.
Completely wrong. They send out emails every week saying they don't give two shits whose ticket it is, as long as you use your own ID.
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You can pay to upgrade the ticket if you wish to sell it to a non-student, but they limit the number of these for each game.
Kinda wrong. They're only doing upgrades for OOC games this season. That's right, Auburn and Florida have seen smaller crowds while they are no longer allowing ticket upgrades. They don't give a frick.
Posted on 10/17/13 at 11:29 am to Harry Caray
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Kinda wrong. They're only doing upgrades for OOC games this season. That's right, Auburn and Florida have seen smaller crowds while they are no longer allowing ticket upgrades. They don't give a frick.
Wait what!? Ie you could not possibly give a student ticket for the auburn or fla game to a non student??
Absolutely dumb....I mean I somewhat understand lsus reasoning on forcing to upgrade the tickets for non students-basically you pay a normal face value. How ever with the recent trend of half full student and general sections I could see that in the future they only check for an id if you want priority points and ticket disbursement the next year being based not off scholastic year but off priority points. A non student paying 20$ for a student ticket to get in more power to them...but the maw student might not get tickets the next year because they are low on priority points.
This post was edited on 10/17/13 at 11:31 am
Posted on 10/17/13 at 11:30 am to LSU GrandDad
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they never were free. your mommy and daddy paid for them via the "student activity" fee
Do you recall how much? I know my tuition in 74 was $160! I know there was some fee curious what it was!
Posted on 10/17/13 at 11:32 am to JEAUXBLEAUX
I graduated in '72 and it seems like EVERY student paid an activities fee. It was not very expensive but the student Id got you into all "activities" on a first come, first served basis.
Posted on 10/17/13 at 11:33 am to jhhingle
i was also at LSU in 1974 and i seem to remember that student fees were something in the range of $35- a semester or so....
Posted on 10/17/13 at 11:34 am to XKEnut
I should have read all the posts first. Do you remember what they did to get our non-student dates/spouses in?
Posted on 10/17/13 at 11:40 am to LSU GrandDad
How many of you remember when the Student Section STARTED on the west side and went into most of the NEZ. Seems like the band sat totally in the NE side.
Posted on 10/17/13 at 11:47 am to JEAUXBLEAUX
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When I went to LSU in the 70's, all Full time students were allowed to attend each game for free and the student section started near mid field.
The student section started on about the 40 and wrapped all the way around into the NEZ. But even so, to get in we had to stand in line all day and miss out on most of the pre-game festivities. The way they do it now is probably better.
Posted on 10/17/13 at 11:51 am to Tigerbait46
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because student IDs are supposed to match the ticket.
that isn't true
they don't even check them at the same time
This post was edited on 10/17/13 at 11:52 am
Posted on 10/17/13 at 11:53 am to MountainTiger
I wasn't sure how far on the west side the SS started. I was thinking 30 but wouldn't argue with 40. Great times. How did we get non-students in. Do you remember? Or did the activities fee cover two tickets?
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