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re: Where theres smoke theres fire: Stansbury to LSU with blue chip recruits

Posted on 1/20/17 at 2:34 pm to
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 1/20/17 at 2:34 pm to
Numbers are 100% correct and Johnson's second year he had 2 NBA players and 3 pro players so no you're wrong he had talent. Just as much as Miss St.
This post was edited on 1/20/17 at 2:35 pm
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 1/20/17 at 2:43 pm to
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and Johnson's second year he had 2 NBA players and 3 pro players so no you're wrong he had talent.



You really need to look up that roster again.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47857 posts
Posted on 1/20/17 at 2:48 pm to
Whoa lol yes I was had the year he got here wrong lol
This post was edited on 1/20/17 at 2:49 pm
Posted by ImayGoLesMiles
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Feb 2015
12709 posts
Posted on 1/20/17 at 2:48 pm to
I've always thought alo of rick stansbury. If he can do what he did at state then he should do well at lsu. I would be all for him as our next head coach and believe that he is qualified for the position.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 1/20/17 at 2:54 pm to
He's a good coach. Look at what's happened at ATM now that he's gone. Ppl here that don't like or want him have this pipe dream that we can get Collins or somebody like him. Those coaches are never coming to LSU. Stansbury is proven at winning and recruiting if we can get him better get him.
This post was edited on 1/20/17 at 2:56 pm
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71592 posts
Posted on 1/20/17 at 2:59 pm to
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He's a good coach. Look at what's happened at ATM now that he's gone.

Caruso, Jones, and House leaving is the difference not Stansbury.
Posted by TigerMac81
Bossier City, LA
Member since Dec 2007
2980 posts
Posted on 1/20/17 at 3:02 pm to
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Young, enthusiastic and energetic....that's my desire


With Alleva still the AD, that might be asking too much.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47857 posts
Posted on 1/20/17 at 3:04 pm to
Davis, Hogg, Gilder, Morelos and Williams are all stud recruits. They're loaded.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71592 posts
Posted on 1/20/17 at 3:09 pm to
Gilder the only guard among that group. House is in the league and Caruso is the ultimate glue guy. Those were big losses.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47857 posts
Posted on 1/20/17 at 3:11 pm to
They were top 35 pre season but look where they are now. Kennedy was about to be fired before last season. The 2 recruiting classes that saved him are heavily recruited by Stansbury. Yes those players you mentioned made a big difference but he helped get them and there's still plenty talent there yet ATM is horrible.
This post was edited on 1/20/17 at 3:12 pm
Posted by TigerMac81
Bossier City, LA
Member since Dec 2007
2980 posts
Posted on 1/20/17 at 3:14 pm to
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We need a coach in the mold of the Florida hire (White). A young, energetic, successful and knowledgeable coach. He looks like he will be successful there. They used the same formula in their prior hire, Donovan.


People, we're talking about Mr. Duke Lacrosse, Hire the DL Coach, Joe Alleva. Get real.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118760 posts
Posted on 1/20/17 at 3:25 pm to
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Somehow I think Aleva screws this up. Just me being pessimistic but also knowing Aleva.



I actually think Alleva can do a good job if F. King and the administration would BTFO. Let the man do his job.
Posted by cheeser
downtown Fishville
Member since Feb 2007
2500 posts
Posted on 1/20/17 at 6:44 pm to
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Why is that weird? College Basketball has an early signing period. Unless academically ineligible, the player is contractually bound to the university if he signs a NLI.


Didn't the NCAA at least consider letting someone who signed a NLI out of the letter if the coach who recruited him leaves before he plays, as long as he transfers where the coach is leaving for ?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47857 posts
Posted on 1/20/17 at 8:10 pm to
Doesn't the coach grant the release anyway? Can't Stansbury grant his release before he leaves if that's the case? I know in football this happens all the time.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14492 posts
Posted on 1/20/17 at 9:34 pm to
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Numbers are 100% correct and Johnson's second year he had 2 NBA players and 3 pro players so no you're wrong he had talent. Just as much as Miss St.


Madking, I guess I missed the NBA contracts these guys below got, because below is the roster for Trent's second year. Check your facts again one more time. Not even one, not even one of my all time favorites Taz even sniffed the NBA. You just lost all credibility with your above statement.



Players Coaches
Pos. # Name Height Weight Year Home town
F 1 Tasmin Mitchell 6 ft 7 in (2.01 m) 245 lb (111 kg) Sr Denham Springs, Louisiana
F 3 Garrett Green 6 ft 11 in (2.11 m) 230 lb (104 kg) So Woodland Hills, California
G 4 Chris Bass 6 ft 1 in (1.85 m) 185 lb (84 kg) So Baton Rouge, Louisiana
F 5 Malcolm White 6 ft 9 in (2.06 m) 225 lb (102 kg) Jr Baton Rouge, Louisiana
G 10 Daron Populist 5 ft 10 in (1.78 m) 170 lb (77 kg) Fr Slidell, Louisiana
G 11 Bo Spencer 6 ft 2 in (1.88 m) 186 lb (84 kg) Jr Baton Rouge, Louisiana
G 12 Aaron Dotson 6 ft 4 in (1.93 m) 205 lb (93 kg) Fr Seattle, Washington
F 13 Eddie Ludwig 6 ft 9 in (2.06 m) 215 lb (98 kg) Fr Metairie, Louisiana
G 14 Chris Beattie 6 ft 4 in (1.93 m) 189 lb (86 kg) Jr Slidell, Louisiana
F 15 Dennis Harris 6 ft 11 in (2.11 m) 190 lb (86 kg) Fr Jonesboro, Georgia
G/F 1 Calvin Traxler 6 ft 5 in (1.96 m) 200 lb (91 kg) Fr Grand Rapids, Michigan
F 22 Taylor Jacobsen 6 ft 6 in (1.98 m) 205 lb (93 kg) So Charlotte, North Carolina
F 24 Storm Warren 6 ft 7 in (2.01 m) 230 lb (104 kg) So Monroe, Louisiana
G 30 Alex Farrer 6 ft 5 in (1.96 m) 200 lb (91 kg) Sr Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Head coach
Trent Johnson (Boise State)
Assistant coach(es)
Donny Guerinoni (Nevada)
Keith Richard (Northeast Louisiana)
Brent Scott (Rice)
Legend
(C) Team captain
(S) Suspended
(I) Ineligible
(W) Walk-on
Injured Injured
Redshirt Current redshirt
Roster
Last update: 2009-11-11
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14492 posts
Posted on 1/20/17 at 9:45 pm to
And this team, Trent's 3rd year beat State in Starkeville and lost by one point at home to a much, much more talented State team coached by your boy. Hamilton redshirted that year.

3 Garrett Green F 6-11 230 Jr. 3L Woodland Hills, Calif. (Taft HS)
4 Chris Bass G 6-1 185 Jr. 2L Baton Rouge, La. (Lee Academy Prep)
5 Malcolm White F 6-9 225 Jr. RS Baton Rouge, La. (St. Helena Central HS/Ole Miss)
10 Andre Stringer G 5-9 170 Fr. HS Jackson, Miss. (Forest Hill HS)
13 Eddie Ludwig F 6-9 215 So. 1L Metairie, La. (Metairie Park Country Day)
14 Jalen Courtney F 6-8 210 Fr. HS Jackson, Miss. (Provine HS)
21 Matt Derenbecker F 6-7 185 Fr. 1L Metairie, La. (Metairie Park Country Day)
22 Ralston Turner G 6-6 193 Fr. HS Muscle Shoals, Ala. (Muscle Shoals HS)
24 Storm Warren F 6-7 230 Jr. 2L Monroe, La. (Richwood HS)
25 Daron Populist G 5-10 170 So. 1L Slidell, La. (Salmen HS)
41 Justin Hamilton C 6-11 260 Jr. TR Alpine, Utah (Lone Peak HS/Iowa State)
45 Aaron Dotson G 6-4 205 So. 1L Seattle, Wash. (Rainier Beach HS)
55 Andrew Del Piero C 7-2 286 So. RS Austin, Texas (Westlake HS)
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14492 posts
Posted on 1/20/17 at 10:03 pm to
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However you want to manipulate what happened the facts are Johnson was 3-5 vs stansbury with a -24 point difference and Stansbury beating him by double digits multiple times including a 17 point whipping. Johnson never beat Stansbury by more than 2 points so no he didn't outcoach him.


Wrong again on just about all of this. Johnson was 4-5 vs. Stansbury while here and absolutely did beat him by more than two points, he beat State 81-57 at home his first year....so not sure where you are getting your cumulative point differential or any other of your stats for that matter.

Outside the first year, I don't think you could argue LSU had more talent than State and year 2 and 3 State had considerably an inarguably much more.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47857 posts
Posted on 1/20/17 at 10:51 pm to
Getting the numbers from lsu sports website I'll post the link since you refuse to acknowledge the truth.
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Yes apologies I forgot which was his first year I was wrong about the sencobd year roster.
This post was edited on 1/20/17 at 11:06 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47857 posts
Posted on 1/20/17 at 10:54 pm to
I've said multiple times I was mistaken about the second year roster. Again I forgot his first year was 08-09 I thought that was his second season.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47857 posts
Posted on 1/20/17 at 10:56 pm to
Nope he beat state 97-94 his first year Taz had his career high in that game. Dunno where you're getting 81-57 that never happened.. Ever.
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