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When are you pass happy tards gonna get it???

Posted on 9/27/15 at 10:56 am
Posted by roscoe mike
Member since Nov 2009
1578 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 10:56 am
Championship caliber teams are championship caliber for two reasons...they can run the ball and they can stop the run. Period.

LSU is 3-0 with the front runner for the Heisman because...wait for it...because they have THE BEST running game in the nation! Hands down.

I know, I know...can't beat Bama or Ole Miss without passing blah blah blah. How do any of you know this to be fact until someone does it??? I expect both Bama and Ole Piss to get it rammed down their throats like every other team on the schedule.

LSU is not good or bad because of how many passing yards they average per game. They are championship caliber because they have a beastly running game with all the benefits that come with it. And the passing game is plenty good enough for the balance that's needed.

LSU fans everywhere should be rejoicing with what they're witnessing this season. It's special. Don't squander the experience worrying about how many passing yards.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422428 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 10:58 am to
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Championship caliber teams are championship caliber for two reasons...they can run the ball and they can stop the run. Period.

how many title-winning teams passed for less than 2500 yards the past 15 years?

and 2500 yards is not a large # in today's CFB landscape, so don't act like i'm asking for a baylor-esque spread offense
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
83933 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 10:59 am to
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Championship caliber teams are championship caliber for two reasons...they can run the ball and they can stop the run. Period.



1. We don't want to be "pass happy".

2. Look at the past several champions and see who the best player on the field was.

This post was edited on 9/27/15 at 11:01 am
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
98982 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 10:59 am to
You should at least change the favorite team for your alter BeeFense.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35393 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 10:59 am to
How did the 5th string QB for Syracuse do so well in the second half against one of the stronger defenses in the country? They kept working on it and their coach showed confidence.

Also, why did play action work so well early and then we nearly abandoned it? I don't mind a run 75% offense, but I don't understand why we don't use the play action more.
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
89862 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 11:01 am to
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how many title-winning teams passed for less than 2500 yards the past 15 years?


To be fair, he did say "championship-caliber", and not title-winning...

Take the top-5 from the past 15 years, and then get back to us in regards to your 2,500 measuring point.

I have no idea how many have, or have not, so I look forward to seeing your research.
Posted by tiggah1981
Winterfell
Member since Aug 2007
17040 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 11:04 am to
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they can run the ball and they can stop the run.


1/9 disagrees with you. Couldn't even cross the 50 with that stellar running attack.

And that defense had playmakers all over the field.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422428 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 11:05 am to
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I have no idea how many have

i didn't until about an hour ago and the answer is 1, and they threw for about 2425 (OSU in 2002)

quote:

Take the top-5 from the past 15 years, and then get back to us in regards to your 2,500 measuring point.

take out LSU and i'd imagine over 90% of them hit that mark. it's not a "big" mark, esp today with so many teams throwing for 4500-5000 these days

there are 2 primary "throwback" teams in that caliber, LSU and Bama, and Bama hits that mark pretty much every year
Posted by FightinTiga
Pumpkin Center
Member since Feb 2009
20745 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 11:07 am to
LSU is built to run the football and it is awesome to watch them impose their will on opponents.Most fans realize this but are concerned that the passing game will not be ready to execute when the time comes due to lack of reps,it's a reasonable concern.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18315 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 11:07 am to
Do you mind searching for a trend for total rushing yards? And in your opinion, what do you think is our magic number for rushing yards?
Posted by Buga
Member since Dec 2013
1468 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 11:08 am to
Nobody wants "pass happy". But you would be foolish and ignorant to think that Brandon won't be called upon to win a game this year with his arm.

Besides, most say that Brandon's best asset is his arm, why would you want to put that on the shelf for most of the game or most of the year. Using Harris and our gifted WRs in the offense will only make the running game that much better. I would be happy with a 60/40 run to pass ratio every game.

The fact is we don't have much creativity in the offense and I will always blame that on Les.
Posted by upgrade
Member since Jul 2011
13025 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 11:09 am to
I'm not Pass happy, I like the run heavy offense.
All I want to see is the offense adjust to how the game is going.
Second half of the game against State, the run wasn't getting the job done and we were giving the ball back 3 and out multiple times in a row.

I like the philosophy of ball control and TOP game when it works.
But if you can't keep the ball try something new please.
Yesterday the strategy worked fine in my opinion, the game was only as close as it was because of stupid arse penalties.
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
18962 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 11:11 am to
Looks like they are bringing Brandon along slowly instead of trying to overload him all at once. There's a few other SEC who broke out new starters this season who would have better off trying to do the same thing. There's nothing wrong with playing to your strengths (running the ball) while Harris continues to grow.
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
89862 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 11:12 am to
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i didn't until about an hour ago and the answer is 1, and they threw for about 2425 (OSU in 2002)


Yes, but I was talking about the top-5, not the Champion, as the OP said championship-caliber teams.

quote:

esp today with so many teams throwing for 4500-5000 these days


Out of 123 players last year, 4 players threw for over 4000 yards, and 66 threw for over 2,500. I wonder how many of those guys had the LSU stable of RB's...
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20360 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 11:13 am to
The difference here is LF. He is that good and LSU can ride him to a national championship.
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
12234 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 11:13 am to
"Pass happy"?
Is that you, Woody Hayes?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260404 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 11:13 am to
The 'tards' are those who believe people want passing just to pass the ball.

Passing is actually necessary at times, and it would be a little comforting to know we can actually come from behind in 2 minutes throwing the football, which I don't believe anyone has much faith in right now.
Posted by TigerFanNKaty
texas
Member since Sep 2008
10233 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 11:14 am to
When is Les going to realize he must develop a passing game. I pisses me off to no end when a team like Syracuse can hang around until the 4th quarter because we don't know how to attack in the passing game. What you people don't get is there are teams on the schedule that will shutdown the running game.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422428 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 11:15 am to
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Do you mind searching for a trend for total rushing yards?

that's going to take forever, but do you mean total rushing? that likely will be dominated by the few pure option teams like GT and Navy

other than a few spread-passing teams that break through every year, your typical top-shelf team has a good passing and rushing game, but nothing too dominant on either side of the ball. the variety is what wins them the tough games
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
32889 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 11:15 am to
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by Brazos The difference here is LF. He is that good and LSU can ride him to a national championship.


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