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re: What's the situation with remaining UH pitchers
Posted on 5/31/14 at 11:22 pm to Dlab2013
Posted on 5/31/14 at 11:22 pm to Dlab2013
quote:The answer is yes. A resounding yes.
Would we have thrown Nola today is we lost yesterday?
Imagine these idiots if we pitched Poche yesterday and lost, then pitched Bouman in losers bracket and lose. 0-2. Nola never sees the mound. Nice.
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Posted on 5/31/14 at 11:22 pm to Dlab2013
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Would we have thrown Nola today is we lost yesterday?
If we lost, we would have played Bryant today. I think it's a toss up.
However if we were playing Southeastern, I think we would take our chances with Bouman & try to save Nola for Houston. Possibly bringing in Nola at any sign of trouble. But that's just my opinion. I don't know if there is a right or wrong answer here. If you are Houston right now in the current situation, do you risk not starting your top guy ? Some would say no, I say they will ultimately look at match ups . Houston is here to win the tournament, not just say they were here. They may risk it.
Posted on 5/31/14 at 11:23 pm to drizztiger
What? Trolling because id prefer my team to do what gives them the best chance to win the regional?
Posted on 5/31/14 at 11:25 pm to doze4
quote:If LSU goes 0-2 without pitching Nola, Marinera would be fired.
doze4
This shite is fricking ridiculous.
Posted on 5/31/14 at 11:25 pm to EarthwormJim
quote:
quote: They are loaded at pitching we will need hitters put sivik at 1st move hale back to 2nd. Take Robinson out .
Wow...
It's a tough spot for their coach though. You'd think strategically it would be wise to save Garza for LSU.
But if you save him and get eliminated...
Posted on 5/31/14 at 11:27 pm to drizztiger
You would want a coach fired for making a strategic pitching decision to give his club the best shot at winning the tourney.
Posted on 5/31/14 at 11:28 pm to josh336
Troll
Posted on 5/31/14 at 11:43 pm to drizztiger
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Troll
Just curious, I'm not the most savvy cat when it comes to internet lingo but wouldn't a "troll" have been banned from this site way before he accumulated forty thousand posts & some change.
Again, I don't have a dog in this fight, just curious.
Posted on 5/31/14 at 11:45 pm to doze4
quote:Josh is a huge Troll. And posters with 100k+ get banned intermittently all the time.
Just curious, I'm not the most savvy cat when it comes to internet lingo but wouldn't a "troll" have been banned from this site way before he accumulated forty thousand posts & some change.
Posted on 5/31/14 at 11:49 pm to TigersforEver
quote:
It's a tough spot for their coach though. You'd think strategically it would be wise to save Garza for LSU.
But if you save him and get eliminated...
The way I see it, your here to win the regional. The only way to win the regional is to beat LSU twice. I dont see where you have a choice but to save Garza for LSU. You get eliminated either way if you dont save Garza.
If your goal is only to play LSU again you pitch Garza against SLU. If you want to beat LSU twice you have to save Garza for your best chance to beat LSU. Whether you go home in the early game or late game is irrelevant. You are still going home.
Posted on 5/31/14 at 11:56 pm to Oyster
My point, at this point SELA is pretty much out of pitching, I wouldn't throw Garza if I was UH. Hell I hope I'm wrong, hope SELA pulls it out cause they are Done come Sunday night.
Posted on 5/31/14 at 11:59 pm to Oyster
Here's my take, if in fact Houston hasn't thrown their #1 yet.
My problem is not do you throw him tomorrow or not. It's why the hell didn't you throw him today? My only reasoning I can see is that Houston felt they had zero chance of beating Nola, so they tossed the game. In doing this though, you are saying I can beat the 3 or 4 seed with my #3 guy then come back and beat LSU twice, I just knew we could not beat Nola no matter who we threw.
That's some crazy thinking if that's the case and some serious respect for Nola to say you think you have a better chance of beating someone else and then LSU twice than beating Nola once.
If that's not their thinking then they are absolutely retarted for not throwing him tonight. This is the most important game of the tournament for whoever wins.
Now that they lost I can see throwing your 3 or 4 and taking the gamble you will win game 1 tomorrow. Then throw your ace Sunday night for a win. Then hope you can take them on Monday.
That's a very weird way of thinking and the wrong way to go about it if you ask me, but no other line of thinking make sense for not throwing him tonight.
My problem is not do you throw him tomorrow or not. It's why the hell didn't you throw him today? My only reasoning I can see is that Houston felt they had zero chance of beating Nola, so they tossed the game. In doing this though, you are saying I can beat the 3 or 4 seed with my #3 guy then come back and beat LSU twice, I just knew we could not beat Nola no matter who we threw.
That's some crazy thinking if that's the case and some serious respect for Nola to say you think you have a better chance of beating someone else and then LSU twice than beating Nola once.
If that's not their thinking then they are absolutely retarted for not throwing him tonight. This is the most important game of the tournament for whoever wins.
Now that they lost I can see throwing your 3 or 4 and taking the gamble you will win game 1 tomorrow. Then throw your ace Sunday night for a win. Then hope you can take them on Monday.
That's a very weird way of thinking and the wrong way to go about it if you ask me, but no other line of thinking make sense for not throwing him tonight.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 12:02 am to Hold That Tiger 10
As strange as it sounds I think you are right Hold That Tiger.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 12:09 am to Oyster
It's the only chance they win the regional
Posted on 6/1/14 at 12:12 am to Tiger Attorney
How can you say that? They are essentially saying winning 3 games (2 against LSU) will be easier than winning this game tonight.
How do you know your ace doesn't throw lights out and you win 1-0?
How do you know LSU doesn't make errors and you score enough to win?
How do you know Nola doesn't have a bad outing and gets hit around a bit more than usual?
Houston is basically saying, "we are better than LSU just not better than Aaron Nola.
How do you know your ace doesn't throw lights out and you win 1-0?
How do you know LSU doesn't make errors and you score enough to win?
How do you know Nola doesn't have a bad outing and gets hit around a bit more than usual?
Houston is basically saying, "we are better than LSU just not better than Aaron Nola.
This post was edited on 6/1/14 at 12:13 am
Posted on 6/1/14 at 12:18 am to Hold That Tiger 10
I could work for them though. I'll be nervous to face them tomorrow night and Monday, that's for sure.
I just can't get how:
- beating SE with your 3 (not a given)
- beating LSU with your ace
- beating LSU again with maybe your Friday starter returning to give you 4-5, assuming he can.
>>>>>>
- beating LSU tonight and then being set.
This game is just too big to not throw it all out to try to win is what I'm saying.
I just can't get how:
- beating SE with your 3 (not a given)
- beating LSU with your ace
- beating LSU again with maybe your Friday starter returning to give you 4-5, assuming he can.
>>>>>>
- beating LSU tonight and then being set.
This game is just too big to not throw it all out to try to win is what I'm saying.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 12:21 am to Oyster
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The way I see it, your here to win the regional. The only way to win the regional is to beat LSU twice. I dont see where you have a choice but to save Garza for LSU. You get eliminated either way if you dont save Garza. If your goal is only to play LSU again you pitch Garza against SLU. If you want to beat LSU twice you have to save Garza for your best chance to beat LSU. Whether you go home in the early game or late game is irrelevant. You are still going home.
Agreed.
Its the same reason we didn't start Nola against Southeastern. This isn't a race to see who can get to 3 wins first, it's about winning the tournament. Match ups are important. Jackson State started a "Junkballer" vs ULL, on a hunch. Guy only pitched 48 innings all year. They thought ULL was overly aggressive/impatient at the plate. Their hunch paid off. Don't be surprised if Garza doesn't start tomorrow. Jes sayin.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 12:24 am to doze4
Starting him tomorrow in the early game would be an even worse move than not throwing him tonight. You can't throw him.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 12:37 am to Hold That Tiger 10
quote:
Here's my take, if in fact Houston hasn't thrown their #1 yet. My problem is not do you throw him tomorrow or not. It's why the hell didn't you throw him today? My only reasoning I can see is that Houston felt they had zero chance of beating Nola, so they tossed the game. In doing this though, you are saying I can beat the 3 or 4 seed with my #3 guy then come back and beat LSU twice, I just knew we could not beat Nola no matter who we threw. That's some crazy thinking if that's the case and some serious respect for Nola to say you think you have a better chance of beating someone else and then LSU twice than beating Nola once. If that's not their thinking then they are absolutely retarted for not throwing him tonight. This is the most important game of the tournament for whoever wins. Now that they lost I can see throwing your 3 or 4 and taking the gamble you will win game 1 tomorrow. Then throw your ace Sunday night for a win. Then hope you can take them on Monday. That's a very weird way of thinking and the wrong way to go about it if you ask me, but no other line of thinking make sense for not throwing him tonight.
Houston's pitching staff is not like ours. We have (1) Nola then a fairly large drop off to (2) Poche (nothing against Poche, Nola is just that good) Houston's top 2 guys are not much different.
Their numbers can be compared below.
So. RHP Jake Lemoine (6-6, 2.35 ERA, 95.2 IP, 81 H, 25 ER, 23 BB, 82 K, .233 OBA, 1.09 WHIP)
Jr. RHP Aaron Garza (8-4, 2.65 ERA, 98.1 IP, 86 H, 29 ER, 10 BB, 56 K, .236 OBA, 0.98 WHIP)
They started Lemoine against us .
What I'm getting at is, in no way were they sandbagging against us because of facing Nola.
This post was edited on 6/1/14 at 12:45 am
Posted on 6/1/14 at 12:37 am to Hold That Tiger 10
Beating LSU twice won't happen regardless
IF they knew beating Nola was helpless and saved #1....then they are done
I sincerely hope they try to save him and take SELA lightly
IF they knew beating Nola was helpless and saved #1....then they are done
I sincerely hope they try to save him and take SELA lightly
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