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re: What will it take for Orgeron to overtake Les Miles as the GOAT LSU football coach?
Posted on 8/12/17 at 4:18 pm to ThePTExperience1969
Posted on 8/12/17 at 4:18 pm to ThePTExperience1969
True. Those were some great teams, but LSU hit another level when Emmert/Saban arrived...
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Posted on 8/12/17 at 4:22 pm to schmoo
1) Dietzel
2) Saban
3) Arnsparger
McClendon most wins. Miles tied most National Championships. If Miles won more games than Cholly I could see the argument, but he really isn't even in the discussion.
2) Saban
3) Arnsparger
McClendon most wins. Miles tied most National Championships. If Miles won more games than Cholly I could see the argument, but he really isn't even in the discussion.
This post was edited on 8/12/17 at 8:16 pm
Posted on 8/12/17 at 4:23 pm to MarlinMan
quote:
LSU hit another level when Emmert/Saban arrived...
We didn't hit "another level" until we won the 2003 natty, we were always among the nation's top football programs until Hallman and DiNardo's 1998 decline.
Posted on 8/12/17 at 4:30 pm to TigerAxeOK
You're the goat!
Posted on 8/12/17 at 4:30 pm to theunknownknight
Well, Miles ain't the GOAT as Tiger HC.
Posted on 8/12/17 at 4:31 pm to ThePTExperience1969
I agree. Good news is that LSU is doing what is necessary to be elite by spending the money necessary on facilities, recruiting tools, assistant coaches salaries, etc. that is great news because if O can change his recruiting failures in north Louisiana and get some of those studs and we can keep Aranda and Canada, the future is very bright.
Posted on 8/12/17 at 4:36 pm to MarlinMan
quote:Cart before horse imo.
Saban and Emmert changed everything from the coaches to the admin office to the trainers to everything.
Emmert put the bait out for Nick and had the flagship plan already in place when telling Dean to FO with hiring process.
Saban came for $$$ and made a great start, but he wasn't the actual resurrection of the program, more like a pawn in Emmert's plan.
Posted on 8/12/17 at 5:00 pm to theunknownknight
quote:
What will it take for Orgeron to overtake Les Miles as the GOAT LSU football coach?
1-2 Titles, 3-4 SEC champs, 100+ wins in 10-12 years, no less than 8 wins a year in that time frame.
Posted on 8/12/17 at 5:07 pm to BayouBengals18
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And who built that brand, you fricking idiot? Saban had less than 3 losses one time here. Dumbass.
Miles maintained....barely IMO. He won one 2-loss title that he was lucky to play in the first place. He shite the bed with a team in 2011 that should have won it all. Stop acting like Miles created LSU....more like the other way around.
Posted on 8/12/17 at 5:15 pm to theunknownknight
A series of unprecedented miracles...
Posted on 8/12/17 at 5:15 pm to RedTigerRulz
Well, if we're truly honest, Huey Long really "built" LSU through his constant promotion of the football program during his governorship and he was such a massive figure nationally at the time. The LSU brand has maintained throughout the generations since.
Posted on 8/12/17 at 5:32 pm to TigerAxeOK
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Miles = 2 NC appearances, 1 win
Another way to present this is as follows:
Miles = 2 NC appearances, 1 shutout, debilitating, humiliating, thorough buttfricking of a loss despite having the most ridiculously talented LSU team ever assembled.
Posted on 8/12/17 at 5:43 pm to MarlinMan
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O could be great, but he is starting with much less than Miles did...
This BS needs to stop right fricking now. I had everything he needs to succeed right now, this season. You O apologists are unreal. Already making excuses for Coach O before he even coaches a game as the HC.
I'm old so I remember when Cholly Mac got run outta town. I have a feeling we're headed for a similar situation over the next ten years. So much alike.
My guess is a bunch of you fools will blame Miles for O 's failures for years. Very pitiful but so typical of the Louisiana mindset. I love my home state but frick the way some people can't see reality
Posted on 8/12/17 at 5:45 pm to RedTigerRulz
quote:Except maintain means keeping at same level. CLM 77% > CNS 75%.
Miles maintained....barely IMO.
quote:Miles got LSU to 2 NCG appearances, more than any LSU coach and more than prolly 95% of all FBS coaches which alone should make him LSU GOAT.
He shite the bed with a team in 2011 that should have won it all.
Yet you hold going 1-1 against him like a spoiled child.
Posted on 8/12/17 at 6:08 pm to semperfitolsu
It was a response to another poster who also used the word one for the word won. Figure it out.
Posted on 8/12/17 at 6:10 pm to BananaHammock
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despite having the most ridiculously talented LSU team ever assembled
This is an incredibly myopic view. You realize the team he played was just as if not more talented and Saban is a better coach and had a better staff. Sucks but it is also reality.
Posted on 8/12/17 at 6:19 pm to danfraz
quote:
This BS needs to stop right fricking now. I had everything he needs to succeed right now, this season. You O apologists are unreal. Already making excuses for Coach O before he even coaches a game as the HC.
Did Miles leave O with two national championship teams already recruited and in the house like Nick Saban left Miles? It wasn't Saban's fault that Miles wasn't good enough of a coach to win a national championship in 2006 and had to get extremely lucky to back his way into the national championship game in 2007 after losing two games in the regular season LSU never should have lost. Indeed, had we had a decent coach, like say coach O, instead of a mediocre coach like Les Miles, during the Miles' era at LSU, we would have easily won at least one, two, or even more national championships.
Posted on 8/12/17 at 6:24 pm to dgnx6
quote:
LSU has won two national title and this squad averaged a #5 recruiting rating.
Which is tied with Ohio st and FSU...behind only bama.
O has a stacked deck...more than what Les had in 2005
Posted on 8/12/17 at 6:27 pm to ThePTExperience1969
quote:
So it's all about who's a "better" coach than accomplishments? Hmmm
the point is if he wins 2 nattys it doesn't matter. that will give him more than anyone else at LSU.
Posted on 8/12/17 at 6:27 pm to Folsom
No, it's just not true. Over decades the game does change and teams look for fresh younger faces with more innovative adaptive styles which appeases fan bases. Those things being true however, do not mean that coaches like Les Miles, Phil Fulmer or Mack Brown were ever close to below "average." It's just much harder to be a re-tread in college football at 63 years old...
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