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BananaHammock
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re: What will it take for Orgeron to overtake Les Miles as the GOAT LSU football coach?
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Space Cowboi

I agree with what you wrote, but would add that he:

- ran a clean program
- recruited well (can't give the LSU brand all the credit there)
- couldn't, for the life of him, manage a fricking clock
- is universally considered by all who have met him or worked for him to be a class act both on and off the field

It was time to move on. To have that talent-rich 2014 recruiting class lose so many games is unfathomable.

Wishing him the best. Would shake his hand and thank him for all he's done if I ever get an opportunity to meet him.


Madking
LSU Fan
Ville platte la.
Member since Apr 2016
6593 posts

re: What will it take for Orgeron to overtake Les Miles as the GOAT LSU football coach?
100% false as usual. How many times are you going to lie about LSUs top 5 offenses? Lol so sad. You've said repeatedly Miles coached 4 of LSUs top 5 offenses which is a lie. Here are the true top 5 offenses anyway you look at it since I know you like to spin what you say when you're called out on your bull shite.
Scoring offense
1- 2007 38.6 ppg
2- 2013 35.8
3- 2011 35.7
4- 1969 34.9
5- 1977 34.1

Yardage
1- 453.3 2013
2- 451.5 2001
3- 440.3 1987
4- 439.4 2007
5- 437.3 2015
It's ok you were only wrong on over half of your statement as per usual.
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SeekGreatness
Member since Nov 2015
1785 posts

re: What will it take for Orgeron to overtake Les Miles as the GOAT LSU football coach?
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Indeed, had we had a decent coach, like say coach O, instead of a mediocre coach like Les Miles, during the Miles' era at LSU, we would have easily won at least one, two, or even more national championships.


This is some next level, twighlight zone, bubble-blowing stupid shite right here.
Son, you'd better prepare yourself for a serious reality check in the next few seasons.


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Tiger in Texas
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Houston, Texas
Member since Sep 2004
15625 posts

re: What will it take for Orgeron to overtake Les Miles as the GOAT LSU football coach?
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Saban was the GOAT LSU coach IMO... Miles was an average coach at best who used the talent he inherited and the LSU brand to recruit the best. Unfortunately, his coaching ability was on display to the world to see on 1/9/12. He was exposed as a fraud that night...


Couldn't agree more- our talent won games, not Miles' coaching. Not to mention, so many games we struggled to win and were painful due to his conservative stubbornness...


Madking
LSU Fan
Ville platte la.
Member since Apr 2016
6593 posts

re: What will it take for Orgeron to overtake Les Miles as the GOAT LSU football coach?
We have the most ignorant delusional fans there are. Compare Saban Miles connection with Butch Davis and Larry Coaker. Davis rebuilt Miami from ruin in the 90s but never won a natty Coaker takes over has a better win pct gets to back to back championship games and wins 1. Whose the better coach Butch Davis or Larry Coaker who was more important to Miami Davis or Coacker? See right minded fans know that Davis was better only here at LSU is it the complete opposite. The truth is if Saban wouldn't have left, if hedve retired nobody would be saying this our fans are a bunch of butt hurt ex girlfriend types. Btw Coaker had a higher winning pct than Miles ask the Miles crew if Coaker is better and see what they say lol.
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H-Town Tiger
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Member since Nov 2003
45780 posts

re: What will it take for Orgeron to overtake Les Miles as the GOAT LSU football coach?
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then why did LSU consistently put more players in the NFL on average in the past few years than Alabama di


Given the 3rd grade level of intellect in this overall post, i shouldn't answer, but i will point out this is actually not true. Saban started at Alabama in 2007, his first class was draft eligible in 2010. Since the 2010 draft Alabama had 61 players drafted and 22 first rounders. In that same time span LSU had 52 players drafted and 8 first rounders. If you include the 08 and 09 drafts, Saban's first years at Bama, its 65-23 for Bama and 65-10 for LSU. in the 4 drafts after 2011, Bama had 32-10, LSU 27-5, so the 2011 Bama team had 5 more guys get drafted over the next 4 years.

LSU had 3 first rounders this last draft, but only 1 the previous 3, that's why Miles is out of a job and why he should be. That doesn't detract from what he did do over 11+ seasons, that you and other so called LSU fans want to trash him in order to pump up your guy is pathetic.


Madking
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Ville platte la.
Member since Apr 2016
6593 posts

re: What will it take for Orgeron to overtake Les Miles as the GOAT LSU football coach?
So when the topic favors the pro Miles narrative those first 3 classes are his but when it doesn't they're not.. Typical.


Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
1562 posts

re: What will it take for Orgeron to overtake Les Miles as the GOAT LSU football coach?


The LSU football program is ran well because it is overseen and closely monitored by the LSU Athletic Department and the University. The recruiting was part of the LSU football program, which constituted far more than just Less Miles alone, and no one and certainly not me ever said or insinuated that Less Miles is not a fine human being because he obviously is. Nonetheless, he was in position way over his head, and that's why in the end he was fired.


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H-Town Tiger
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Member since Nov 2003
45780 posts

re: What will it take for Orgeron to overtake Les Miles as the GOAT LSU football coach?
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So when the topic favors the pro Miles narrative those first 3 classes are his but when it doesn't they're not.. Typical.


What on earth are you talking about? I was just listing the classes at LSU and Alabama since Saban's first Alabama class was draft eligible ti illustrate that A) Bama's had more talent since Saban's been there and the talent at LSU has sliding of late. That we had a team with 3 first rounders and 8 total picks last year (plus who ever gets drafted next year) and start off 2-2 this year and 9-3 last year is inexcusable, that's why he's gone he should be. No narrative taking place cochise, not every scenario can be covered in every post.


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Mayhawman
LSU Fan
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Member since Dec 2009
6437 posts

re: What will it take for Orgeron to overtake Les Miles as the GOAT LSU football coach?
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100% false as usual. How many times are you going to lie about LSUs top 5 offenses? Lol so sad. You've said repeatedly Miles coached 4 of LSUs top 5 offenses which is a lie.
You really don't know how this works.
Offensive scoring stats do not include D an ST scoring like ppg.
I use that stat because of the idiot disclaimers like you who's first response is defensive scoring, rabble, rabble.
Get a '16 media guide and look up TDs rushing and passing around pg 105.
You can download it for free and keep your allowance, but it would sure look good on mom's coffeetable.
Lots of neat stuff in there that may prevent you from looking so damn foolish about LSU.




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noonan
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Member since Aug 2005
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re: What will it take for Orgeron to overtake Les Miles as the GOAT LSU football coach?
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could be great, but he is starting with much less than Miles did...


This was just the icing on the shite cake of your post.


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Madking
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Member since Apr 2016
6593 posts

re: What will it take for Orgeron to overtake Les Miles as the GOAT LSU football coach?
Lol just as I predicted. It's like clockwork with your kind.
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BayouBengals18
LSU Fan
Belle Chasse
Member since Jan 2009
7178 posts

re: What will it take for Orgeron to overtake Les Miles as the GOAT LSU football coach?
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Indeed, had we had a decent coach, like say coach O, instead of a mediocre coach like Les Miles, during the Miles' era at LSU, we would have easily won at least one, two, or even more national championships.


You never cease to amaze me with how retarded you are. A guy that won 3 SEC games in 3 years at Ole Miss would've certainly led LSU to multiple NC's.


The Belk
Member since Oct 2015
323 posts

re: What will it take for Orgeron to overtake Les Miles as the GOAT LSU football coach?
Miles has a better record of win his last full 5 years than Saban did.


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Mayhawman
LSU Fan
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Member since Dec 2009
6437 posts

re: What will it take for Orgeron to overtake Les Miles as the GOAT LSU football coach?
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Lol just as I predicted.
I quess that translates to you refuse to seek the truth, even if it is a nice addition to mom's coffee table.
Loser


Madking
LSU Fan
Ville platte la.
Member since Apr 2016
6593 posts

re: What will it take for Orgeron to overtake Les Miles as the GOAT LSU football coach?
Lol awe why are you so mad? Because you were called on your bull shite or because your cherry picking was recognized and anticipated?


Scoob
LSU Fan
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
7000 posts

re: What will it take for Orgeron to overtake Les Miles as the GOAT LSU football coach?
You guys are all missing the point. Saban, Miles, Orgeron, any competent head coach can bring a program to it's potential, if allowed to do so.

You talk about the coach, but like the saying every good man has a good woman behind him, every good coach has the right administration backing him up.

What did Saban do? Here's what- he came here when Mark Emmert was able to break the Good Ol Boy network, and he ran shite the way HE wanted to, not the way a bunch of rich booster fricks wanted him to. And by being able to do what he wanted, the way he wanted to, he stabilized the program and pushed it way into the positive side of things.
And then, he left.

And Miles came in, and Saban's title and the things he set up were good, and bought Miles a little room to breathe. And what did Miles do? He elevated LSU from a good ranked program, to an elite program. Took things to a level where 8 wins and a minor bowl is a disaster, and 9 or "just" 10 wins still ain't good enough.
But Miles stayed too long, and the Good Ol Boys got their claws back into things. And they started tearing shite up, because it wasn't being run the way they wanted it.
Seriously- the outrage over losing a National Title game, after he went and won us another title? Keep in mind, prior to Saban's title, it had been 50 yrs since we sniffed a shot at the title... Saban AND Miles each won one.
And the final straw... Miles wouldn't hire and fire the assistant coaches others told him to, so they fired him. Oh, the HORROR of it all, the gall of Miles to do that. I'm sure Saban would go along with boosters and the AD telling him who his assistants should be.

So now, we got a loyal yes-man in O. He doesn't need to have a good record coming in (even approaching .500), because he'll take the job for a few million less than the others get, because "he loves LSU. He's one of us."
Hell, the head coach isn't even important, it's the coordinators... RIGHT? That's the way to win. That's how the other major programs do it. Alabama will rue the day they let Kirby Smart and Lane Kiffen get away.



Gray Tiger
LSU Fan
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
29207 posts

re: What will it take for Orgeron to overtake Les Miles as the GOAT LSU football coach?
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It's like clockwork with your kind.




Which "kind" is that?


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TigerAxeOK
LSU Fan
Oklahoma
Member since Dec 2016
830 posts

re: What will it take for Orgeron to overtake Les Miles as the GOAT LSU football coach?
Damn, this thread got ugly...



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Mayhawman
LSU Fan
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
6437 posts

re: What will it take for Orgeron to overtake Les Miles as the GOAT LSU football coach?
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Lol awe why are you so mad?
Not mad, I pity you.
You would rather hold on to a lie than get the media guide.
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Because you were called on your bull shite or because your cherry picking was recognized and anticipated?
The LSU media guide doesn't cherry pick stats, doesn't have favorites, nor hate players and staff.
It's all there for you, the truth will set you free.


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