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re: What is LSU doing this season with Harris that they couldn't do with Jennings?
Posted on 9/27/15 at 9:22 pm to Jtigers99
Posted on 9/27/15 at 9:22 pm to Jtigers99
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Harris' completion percentage on Saturday was 50% for about 150 yards which is Jennings' average stat line.
If you can't tell the difference in the two QB's then there is no one on this board that can help you. I thought BH looked very sharp yesterday....showing off that very strong arm.....he had a drop or two...and then deliberately threw a couple away. For the most part, he was right on the money and when he was off it was only barely. Unfortunately with the ball coming in on the rec's at that speed.....there is little room for error. I was impressed with Harris yesterday and I think we will have some big things from him before he is done at LSU.
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Posted on 9/27/15 at 9:35 pm to Jtigers99
Nothing, they just need to let the kid slingg the fricker at least 20-25 times a game IMO. Start slow with short routes, screens & then get vertical & intermediate. Shite kid can't get a feel for the game & get in the groove cause of the pussy playing calling.
(WR's need to hold on to the pigskin)
(WR's need to hold on to the pigskin)
Posted on 9/27/15 at 9:38 pm to Jtigers99
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What is LSU doing this season with Harris that they couldn't do with Jennings?
nothing
anthony jennings started last year with 3 better games than harris has had to start this year
i'm not advocating for jennings to be our QB, but people are propping up harris too much based on his actual performances
Posted on 9/27/15 at 9:39 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Harris came in last year with terrible pocket presence. He did not trust his O-line and would run at the first sight of pressure. He has improved exponentially. He seems a little more poised every week.
Since the OP started with stats, let's go there. If the four passes were not dropped, Harris is 12-16. That is 75%
Overall, he is still at a 61.7% completion ratio for 2015. This means we are a threat to pass and do not have to face 8-9 in the box every play. This, along with a developing offensive line, has spread defenses out enough to allow LF7 to consistently reach the secondary.
Since the OP started with stats, let's go there. If the four passes were not dropped, Harris is 12-16. That is 75%
Overall, he is still at a 61.7% completion ratio for 2015. This means we are a threat to pass and do not have to face 8-9 in the box every play. This, along with a developing offensive line, has spread defenses out enough to allow LF7 to consistently reach the secondary.
Posted on 9/27/15 at 9:42 pm to beauchristopher
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a huge struggle for us last year with jennings was not converting TDs in the redzone..
With Harris under center we are scoring TDs at the goal far more efficiently.
hasn't harris thrown for exactly 1 red zone TD this year? do you have statistical data, through similar games in 2014, that jennings was worse?
honest question
Posted on 9/27/15 at 9:44 pm to cas4t
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the issue wasn't Jenning's long ball, it was the fact that he could barely throw a screen pass 10 yards to his left.
how many screens have we run this year?
Posted on 9/27/15 at 9:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
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hasn't harris thrown for exactly 1 red zone TD this year? do you have statistical data, through similar games in 2014, that jennings was worse?
honest question
Do you really think Harris is no better than Jennings?
Honest question.
Posted on 9/27/15 at 9:46 pm to LACountyTiger
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Do you really think Harris is no better than Jennings?
i believe/hope he will be, but we haven't seen enough of harris in the passing game to put him on a pedestal, honestly
people are making all of these large proclamations and ignoring the actual performance data
Posted on 9/27/15 at 9:48 pm to SlowFlowPro
If you can't see the difference in the offense then you are either blind or stupid. Jennings does nothing better than Harris. Nothing
Posted on 9/27/15 at 9:48 pm to SlowFlowPro
Anyone who thinks Harris isn't playing much better than Jennings was last year, is ignoring the "actual performance data"
Posted on 9/27/15 at 9:49 pm to SlowFlowPro
Didn't read, I hope the OP is related to AJ, hard working good guy an proud he is a Tiger. SFP, the point is LSU has scored every time in the red zone(11) except when the Tigers took a knee at Syracuse on the last drive: SFP I did see your post.
Posted on 9/27/15 at 9:50 pm to tigerclaws15
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If you can't see the difference in the offense
biggest difference is fournette being developed and comfortable and busting off amazing/long runs
harris has the most hype for a QB averaging 100 ypg and 6.43 ypa with 1 passing TD in the history of football i reckon
This post was edited on 9/27/15 at 9:51 pm
Posted on 9/27/15 at 9:51 pm to SlowFlowPro
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nthony jennings started last year with 3 better games than harris has had to start this year
AJ: 9/21 vs Wisconsin
7/13 vs Sam Houston (who hoo)
11/18 1 pick bs ULM
He did have more TDs after 3 games but the competition was significantly worse. And after these 3 games he regressed with each game.
Posted on 9/27/15 at 9:51 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i'm not advocating for jennings to be our QB, but people are propping up harris too much based on his actual performances
Good gosh man.. Unreal.
What part of Jennings only accounted for 11 Tds and 7 INTS with 2 fumbles all of last season to Harris 9 total TDs in EXTREMELY limited time do you not understand to see the difference? and Jennings had a full year in the system.. Harris has so much more upside and he is playing efficient football. They aren't asking much of him.
The offense is far more 3 and out with Jennings.. Regardless of "why".. it just is.. Even against inferior teams.. Jennings couldn't do anything against MS St, but Harris was 1 Hail Mary completion from winning the game.. not tying it.. winning it..
Here's a little highlight video of Jennings
Jennings overthrows the deep ball too often and he under-throws the short ball too often. Especially in distress.. this is where Harris' bigger arm helps the team.
Jennings does not run very effectively.. Harris does. Harris looks faster this season.
Jennings takes too many sacks.. which are drive killers.
Jennings
Posted on 9/27/15 at 9:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
1 total td for Harris huh? All I needed to know about you. You don't know shite
Posted on 9/27/15 at 9:52 pm to LACountyTiger
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He did have more TDs after 3 games but the competition was significantly worse.
look at his ypa
Jennings' first 3 games last year:
239 yards (42.9% @ 11.4 ypa), 2 TD, 0 INT, 169.9 Rating
188 yards (53.8% @ 14.5 ypa), 3 TD, 0 INT, 251.5 Rating
139 yards (61.1% @ 7.7 ypa), 0 TD, 1 INT, 114.9 Rating
LINK
Harris's first 3 games this year:
71 yards (64.3% @ 5.1 ypa), O TD, 0 INT, 106.9 Rating
74 yards (70.6% @ 4.4 ypa), 1 TD, 0 INT, 126.6 Rating
157 yards (50.0% @ 9.8 ypa), 1 TD, 0 INT, 153.1 Rating
LINK
Posted on 9/27/15 at 9:53 pm to SlowFlowPro
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do you have statistical data, through similar games in 2014, that jennings was worse?
"similar games" isn't an honest assessment, you have to look at the first 3 games and Harris has a better completion percentage and fewer turnovers against a tougher schedule. Also has shown much better ability to scramble and pick up big gains.
Posted on 9/27/15 at 9:53 pm to tigerclaws15
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1 total td for Harris huh? All I needed to know about you. You don't know shite
i edited the post for more clarity before you even made this post
Posted on 9/27/15 at 9:55 pm to ForeLSU
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and Harris has a better completion percentage
with a vastly inferior ypa
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and fewer turnovers
yes but it's only 1 fewer
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against a tougher schedule.
marginally, if that
wisconsin last year is by far the best of the 6 teams being compared
Posted on 9/27/15 at 9:55 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i believe/hope he will be, but we haven't seen enough of harris in the passing game to put him on a pedestal, honestly
I agree that he has not done enough to trust him to win a game if the running game is shut down.
But come on, even last year, his worst was not far off from an average AJ performance.
I'd like to see more as well but you and the OP are the only 2 people in the country even suggesting he might not be better than AJ.
I suspect you don't even think that but are just playing devils advocate.
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