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re: What happened to Jordan Jefferson over the course of his career
Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:10 pm to zsav77
Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:10 pm to zsav77
quote:I'm not going to worry about what you, Tigerinthehollow, tigerclaws15, or CptBengal think.
Who's this "we"? You and JJ? Seems like everyone in this thread thinks you're a retard and stupid.
Most people thought Galileo was stupid.
Galileo had truth on his side. It took most people a while, but most people finally came around.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:13 pm to zsav77
quote:
My posts are not made out of anger or resentment.quote:
We all know you're full of shite
You're obtuse
You're full of shite
That's not anger or resentment. You intentionally misquoted my post. You intentionally left words out of my post.
You are full of shite. Doesn't make me angry. Just makes you full of shite.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:14 pm to Salviati
quote:
Galileo had truth on his side.
quote:
J Lee 2011 Stats:
62.3%, 1306 yards, 7.8 y/a, 14td-3int, overall rating 152
J Jefferson 2011 Stats:
61%, 737 yards, 7.4 y/a, 6td-2int, 138 overall rating.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:15 pm to chilge1
quote:
chilge1
you really need to stop with the Jennings worshiping. Maybe you are Anthony himself, or a relative (like that loser defending JJ in this thread). Listen, if Jennings does play, I hope he lights it up, and I'm not going to speculate on how he will perform in the future. All I can base my argument on is that how he performed in the past was downright awful, and there is no way to defend it...so please stop trying.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:16 pm to chilge1
Dude, you defending the qb play of Jennings is what is laughable. I don't know if you are trolling or just plain stupid, leaning towards the later
Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:17 pm to Salviati
quote:
Lee had an extra year in the system over Jefferson. He had more time to learn the two-minute offense. Plus, it gives something for the backup QB to focus on.
If the backup QB is not dramatically worse than the starter, let the backup focus on the two-minute offense.
whatever you say sweetheart
Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:19 pm to Salviati
quote:
Are you actually suggesting that Lee should have had a career in the CFL?
i'm suggesting saying Jefferson played pro ball longer is stupid and irrelevant. Jefferson's only significant stint in pro ball was going 1-5 as a starter in the arena league before being cut. Lee's played 4 preseason games in the NFL. Neither are pro caliber players. What the frick is your point.
This post was edited on 7/29/15 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:23 pm to Tigerinthehollow
quote:
Listen, if Jennings does play, I hope he lights it up, and I'm not going to speculate on how he will perform in the future. All I can base my argument on is that how he performed in the past was downright awful, and there is no way to defend it...so please stop trying.
Dude, I've had to do the same goddamn thing for Harris in several Feleipe Franks threads. The way this board cannibalizes freshmen quarterbacks is unreal.
Y'all have been praising Jarrett Lee for 12 pages now... the hatred that was spewed at him in 2008 is what prompted me to stop lurking and actually create an account.
Jennings didn't do well last year. And he didn't have much help last year, from teammates or from coaches.
CFB lore is filled with players who shat the bed when they were young and rebounded in a big way.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:23 pm to Salviati
quote:
You can't be this obtuse, can you?
about as obtuse as refusing to acknowledge Jefferson played like dogshit against both UGA and Alabama and that those games did count. They just hurt your argument so you want to separate them. had Jefferson lit it up in those games, you'd use it to further your point that he was better.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:24 pm to tigerclaws15
quote:quote:answer this fact
Salviati
J Lee 2011 Stats:
62.3%, 1306 yards, 7.8 y/a, 14td-3int, overall rating 152
J Jefferson 2011 Stats:
61%, 737 yards, 7.4 y/a, 6td-2int, 138 overall rating.
SEC Regular Season Games
Jefferson was a better QB than Lee.
Jefferson's three regular season starts in 2011 were the three best offensive games of the season.
It wasn't that one of Jefferson's games was better than one of Lee's games. It wasn't that the average of Jefferson's three starts was better than the average of Lee's starts. Every regular season game that Jefferson started was better than every regular season game that Lee started.
LSU's best rushing game happened when Jefferson started.
LSU's best total offense game happened when Jefferson started.
LSU's best completion percentage game happened when Jefferson started.
In the nine games that Lee started during the regular season, LSU gained over 400 yards just once. In the three games that Jefferson started during the regular season, LSU gained more than 400 yards in every game. Every game.
Jefferson had better regular season passing numbers than Lee.
Compare regular season numbers. Jefferson had better passing numbers than Lee: higher Completion %; higher QB Rating; higher YPA; lower Interception %. And that's not even mentioning how much Jefferson improved the team's rushing attack. LSU rushed for over 250 yards in every game of Jefferson’s three starts.
Lee threw for over 200 yards (213) just once in nine games. Jefferson threw for more than 200 yards (208) once in just three games.
Jefferson completed 100% of his passes against Ole Miss. Lee never completed 100% of his passes in any of his starts, not even against Northwestern State, an FCS school.
In Lee's nine regular season starts, he completed less than 50% of his passes three times. In Jefferson's three starts, he always completed more than 55% of his passes.
Jefferson (2011 Regular Season)
64.3%, 9.34 YPA, 5 TDs, 1 INT, INT% 1.43%, Overall Rating 163.48
Lee (2011 Regular Season)
62.3%, 7.82 YPA, 14 TDs, 3 INTs, INT% 1.80%, Overall Rating 152.04
Post-season numbers cannot be compared. Jefferson played in the Championship games. Lee didn't
Jefferson was more efficient than Lee
From the moment that Jefferson threw his first pass in the Florida game in 2011, he had a higher QB Rating than Lee. Jefferson had a better efficiency rating than Lee, and that better efficiency continued for the rest of the regular season. That's right, from his first pass until the end of the regular season, Jefferson was more efficient than Lee.
So when folks say that Lee was an efficient QB, the "most efficient" QB in the SEC or in the nation, at no point during the regular season, from the time Jefferson threw his first pass until the end of the regular season, was Lee more efficient than Jefferson.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:26 pm to Salviati
Did you make up the numbers in that graph?
JJ did not have a 66% comp percentage in 2011....among others.
Seriously, why just make up numbers?
JJ did not have a 66% comp percentage in 2011....among others.
Seriously, why just make up numbers?
Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:28 pm to Tigerinthehollow
quote:
Everyone on here has shown you how ignorant you are and provided data to back that up.
quote:Truth is not always popular, but I'm not going to worry about what you, zsav77, tigerclaws15, or CptBengal think.
Either way, you look like an absolute fool on here, and I'm done with you. I think it's pretty damn unanimous that you look like a complete idiot on here and what you are posting is absolute lies and ignorance. Have a good day you low life piece of shite.
Most people thought Galileo was fool and a complete idiot.
Galileo had truth on his side. It took most people a while, but most people finally came around.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:29 pm to tigerclaws15
quote:
qbr
Come on. Really?!?!
No, really?!?!
Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:30 pm to Salviati
quote:
LSU scored four offensive touchdowns. Georgia scored ten points.
LSU running backs scored 4 offensive TDs. Jefferson led two drives that were longer than 4 plays the entire game, one of those resulted in a punt. That's fricking pathetic
quote:
From the moment Jefferson attempted his first pass 2011, he had a higher efficiency than Lee, and Jefferson maintained that higher efficiency than Lee throughout the regular season.
until the SECCG, and he would finish behind Lee in every passing category
Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:31 pm to Salviati
quote:
Lee started against 4 of the 5 worst defenses that LSU faced in 2011
what about the other 5 defenses he faced as a starter? TIA
Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:32 pm to lsufball19
quote:quote:whatever you say sweetheart
Lee had an extra year in the system over Jefferson. He had more time to learn the two-minute offense. Plus, it gives something for the backup QB to focus on.
If the backup QB is not dramatically worse than the starter, let the backup focus on the two-minute offense.
You really are running out of facts and arguments. I'm glad that you are finally beginning to accept the truth.
It doesn't make me any more right, or you any more wrong, but I hope you are finally learning something.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:33 pm to Salviati
Why did you make up numbers in your graphs?
Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:34 pm to CptBengal
quote:
JJ did not have a 66% comp percentage in 2011....among others.
without his two worst games he did. but he doesn;t want to count 2011 postseason games because they make Jefferson look bad
Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:35 pm to lsufball19
quote:
i'm suggesting saying Jefferson played pro ball longer is stupid and irrelevant. Jefferson's only significant stint in pro ball was going 1-5 as a starter in the arena league before being cut. Lee's played 4 preseason games in the NFL. Neither are pro caliber players. What the frick is your point.
I'm not the one who brought up Lee's 4 preseason games like they are the touchstone of truth. That's your shibboleth.
Neither Lee nor Jefferson had much, if any, of a pro career. And I'm not the one who is saying that either of them should have.
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