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re: What advantage, if any, is having rotating QBs

Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:32 pm to
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
12830 posts
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:32 pm to
I thank you for a thoughtful reply. I would wait for game 2 to get the sub experience. That does not square with what CLM did with Mett during his first year.

My main point is that the offensive unit in football is the most coordinated and synchronized of any unit/team in sports. It must run with a watch-like precision which begins and not infrequently ends with the QB. It seems that again LSU is weak in the most critical position. We'll see what happens in a few days.
Posted by aaronb023
TeamBunt CEO
Member since Feb 2005
11774 posts
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:33 pm to
No advantage..only reason les isn't naming a starter is because they both suck and he's having a hard time picking the lesser of two evils

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Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
12830 posts
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:45 pm to
You are probably 100% correct. Cannot see him starting a true freshman. It would be asking for trouble. Why can he not recruit good qBs?
Posted by TBone1983
Shreveport, Louisiana
Member since Jul 2013
89 posts
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:56 pm to
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Hard to get into a rhythm when you keep getting pulled.


Mmmmmm hmmmmmm
Posted by mike4lsu
Baton Rouge,LA
Member since Sep 2005
1521 posts
Posted on 8/26/14 at 10:21 pm to
Prevents the other from transfering. If either one transfers, we will be left with no scholarship QB if the starter goes down.
Posted by Geaux9
Mandeville
Member since Apr 2009
5173 posts
Posted on 8/26/14 at 10:30 pm to
I don't see the point when they are both mobile qb's. They have similar skill sets, so put the best one in.

If we see two qb's getting meaningful snaps this year, then it's going to be a rough year on offense. Besides the running game of course
Posted by LSUShock
Kansas
Member since Jun 2014
4913 posts
Posted on 8/26/14 at 10:31 pm to
I can't stand it, but I'm not getting paid $4 million a year to make that decision. I think it prevents momentum, confuses the O, decreases morale, etc. Unless you have two completely different QBs where one guy brings something new to the table (Tebow/Leak) I don't understand it. I guarantee it's failed 10x more than it's succeeded
Posted by lsutigerbandfan
Amite, Louisiana
Member since Mar 2011
1274 posts
Posted on 8/26/14 at 10:34 pm to
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If you have 2 qb's, you don't have one



WOW! That says a lot.
Posted by TBone1983
Shreveport, Louisiana
Member since Jul 2013
89 posts
Posted on 8/26/14 at 10:46 pm to
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I don't see the point when they are both mobile qb's. They have similar skill sets, so put the best one in. If we see two qb's getting meaningful snaps this year, then it's going to be a rough year on offense. Besides the running game of course


I totally agree. I would like to see the coaches play 1 qb the 1st half and the other qb the second half to allow them to get plenty of reps depending on how well they play. I cant wait to see this offensive line open up some "Jenna Jamison" type holes though...
Posted by PeaRidgeWatash
Down by the docks of the city
Member since Dec 2004
15210 posts
Posted on 8/26/14 at 10:52 pm to
This Saturday? So Les and Cam can decide who the starter will be for the rest of the season.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10086 posts
Posted on 8/26/14 at 10:58 pm to
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It just makes no sense to me.
It makes perfect sense that it makes no sense to somebody who doesn't understand football, even when he's seen it contribute to championships.
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7027 posts
Posted on 8/27/14 at 12:23 am to
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only reason les isn't naming a starter is because they both suck and he's having a hard time picking the lesser of two evils
Or perhaps they are both really good and that's why he hasn't named a starter.
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7027 posts
Posted on 8/27/14 at 12:31 am to
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Why can he not recruit good qbs?
One guy has maybe one and half total game time experience and the other has never played a single down of college ball. Why don't we let these young men prove what they can or can't do on the field in a real game before we declare them busts.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26618 posts
Posted on 8/27/14 at 3:07 am to
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If you have 2 qb's, you don't have one


Just the last 3 years of teams I remember

LSU 2011
Jarett Lee/Jordan Jefferson
165/267 (61.8%) 2043 yards 20 TDs 5 ints
75 car 263 yards 3 TD

TCU 2012
Trevor Boykin/Casey Pachall
231/389 (59.4%) 3002 yards 25 TDs 11 ints
127 car 417 yards 3 TDs

Northwestern 2012
Trevor Simian/Cain Kolter
229/367 (62.4%) 2184 yards 14 TDs 7 ints
190 car 939 yards 13 TDs

Indiana 2013
Nate Sudfield/Tre Roberson
277/460 (60.2%) 3651 yards 36 TDs 13 ints
85 car 423 yards 6 TDs

So that bullshite y'all keep spilling with no basis (like loading the box and we won't be able to run lol), is just that. Ignorant bullshite.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 8/27/14 at 7:18 am to
App state beat Michigan too one time.

It's the exception not the rule you fricking genius.

No one is saying that one or both of these guys won't develop into fine qbs, but as of today it's obv not there yet.

Let's just hope they are good enough until one blossoms to what coaches want.

Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26618 posts
Posted on 8/27/14 at 11:57 am to
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App state beat Michigan too one time.


Da Fuq does this have to do with a dumbass tired cliché?

quote:

It's the exception not the rule you fricking genius.


How many teams are really going through a two QB system for at least nearly half of the year? Then, provide me data to where an overwhelming majority of them sucked.

I'll give you another example

MSU 2013
Tyler Russell/Dak Prescott
227/376 (60.3%) 2815 yards 15 TDs 10 ints
134 car 829 yards 13 TDs

I've given you 5 in the past 3 years off the top of my head, who did well. To combat that, I think 15 over the same time span will suffice for a counter argument. If you can't provide that, it shows me that you are spitting the same tired clichés that really hold no water. You people hear something, and quote it like bible scripture.

Posted by FightinTiga
Pumpkin Center
Member since Feb 2009
20745 posts
Posted on 8/27/14 at 11:59 am to
None,all it will do is create confusion for these young QB's.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33793 posts
Posted on 8/27/14 at 12:09 pm to
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If we see two qb's getting meaningful snaps this year, then it's going to be a rough year on offense. Besides the running game of course


Les knows who will start and who is going to get the bulk of the snaps. My educated guess is that player is Jennings.

People need to chill the frick out. Les will likely do what he's always done in this situation. One guy gets the bulk of the snaps, the other guy comes in for a few plays for some option stuff.
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
22443 posts
Posted on 8/27/14 at 12:12 pm to
The other team has to prepare for different offensive attacks
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18134 posts
Posted on 8/27/14 at 12:44 pm to
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So that bullshite y'all keep spilling with no basis (like loading the box and we won't be able to run lol), is just that. Ignorant bullshite.


You're plucking a few examples (and Indiana ISN'T a great example).

I've been watching college football for 5 decades, and in the vast majority of cases, a two QB system doesn't work. Sure, there are examples where it's worked, but overall, it doesn't.

Plus, let's be on the same page. A "2 QB system" means that two QBs actually play a good bit throughout a game and using both of them is part of the game plan. It's not a "2 QB system" when one QB replaces the other due to injury or bad play, etc.

I wouldn't say that JJ/JL was a 2 QB system. Yes, both played, but JL started due to JJ's suspension and JJ got back as a starter after JL failed against Bama. So not really a true "2 QB" system.
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