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Watson: "We we worked on that Pick All Year" ... And it was perfectly legal
Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:15 am
Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:15 am
Yes, Clemson ran a ‘pick play’ to beat Alabama. But it was totally legal.
Watson’s on-field interview. “All we needed was a good pick by [wide receiver Artavis Scott], and Tave picked him, and Renfrow got in the end zone,” Watson said, as confetti rained down. “… It was something we’ve worked on all year long, and it was a perfect time to call it.”
So-called pick plays, sometimes referred to as “rub routes” in certain situations, have become a staple of NFL and college football, especially near the goal line.
Watson’s on-field interview. “All we needed was a good pick by [wide receiver Artavis Scott], and Tave picked him, and Renfrow got in the end zone,” Watson said, as confetti rained down. “… It was something we’ve worked on all year long, and it was a perfect time to call it.”
So-called pick plays, sometimes referred to as “rub routes” in certain situations, have become a staple of NFL and college football, especially near the goal line.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:24 am to Quid Pro Quo
Rubbin's racin'
This post was edited on 1/10/17 at 11:27 am
Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:28 am to Quid Pro Quo
Chris Fowler was the only one trying to make a big deal about it.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:28 am to Quid Pro Quo
Yes, that was an outstanding play & well executed by Clemson.
I would like to see LSU run pick plays & execute them effectively and legally.
I would like to see LSU run pick plays & execute them effectively and legally.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 12:21 pm to rjokerlsu
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I would like to see LSU run pick plays & execute them effectively and legally
Let's learn how to run a WR screen before we take the training wheels off.
This post was edited on 1/10/17 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 1/10/17 at 12:34 pm to Quid Pro Quo
Rub routes are allowed and have been for a decade at least
Posted on 1/10/17 at 12:35 pm to Quid Pro Quo
bama played press coverage and got burned. they should have switched off coverage
Posted on 1/10/17 at 12:54 pm to Quid Pro Quo
Pick plays in general are illegal, however, if the WR sells the route, it's fair game. Refs will flag pick plays if the the WR is obviously setting up a pick like basketball players do. The Packers bread & butter redzone and goal plays are pick plays. The Saints ran a pick play with a WR slant against the LB for the RB wheel to get loose. The Seahawks lost a Superbowl on a pick play.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 1:00 pm to jtran1988
You can block as a WR within 2-yards of the LOS in college I believe. In the pros I think it is 1 yard, but I may have those flipped.
It wasn't illegal at all.
It wasn't illegal at all.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 1:01 pm to jtran1988
I recall something about the pick has to be executed within 3 yards of the LOS for it to be legal. Not sure though.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 1:11 pm to RainChance0
What makes it legal is that he did not touch the DB who was covering the 2nd receiver. He contacted the DB covering him, legal within 5 yards, causing Brown to go around them.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 1:15 pm to Quid Pro Quo
The receiver was hugged before he crossed the goal line. Nothing illegal at all.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 1:26 pm to Quid Pro Quo
Hats off to Clemson. Williams was probably their only WR who could "win" on his own (and did) so using picks is part of the game against man to man defense, and they executed the picks flawlessly.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 1:26 pm to Quid Pro Quo
That was the only play that could have worked in that situation. With time expiring in either half, it's a benefit to the defense to intentionally hold the receivers at the line of scrimmage. If Alabama had held every receiver, then it may have forced Clemson to kick the field goal during an un-timed down, unless Clemson didn't want to risk overtime. If you watch the play carefully, the Clemson receiver that was setting up the pick was held right at the snap. Alabama just couldn't get to the other receiver. There should have been a penalty on Alabama on the play.
Something like this happened in one of the Saints games at the end of the 1st half. Every Saints receiver was held preventing a possible touchdown attempt and had to settle for a field goal on the last play of the half.
The rules committee needs to consider a possible 10 second addition in cases like this. The opposite of a 10 second run-off.
Something like this happened in one of the Saints games at the end of the 1st half. Every Saints receiver was held preventing a possible touchdown attempt and had to settle for a field goal on the last play of the half.
The rules committee needs to consider a possible 10 second addition in cases like this. The opposite of a 10 second run-off.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 2:01 pm to Quid Pro Quo
Your title is not an accurate quote
Posted on 1/10/17 at 4:04 pm to Quid Pro Quo
If I remember correctly, Clemson scored on that pick play twice.
Saban went ballistic both times, especially the first.
All Alabama had to do the second time was have their two defenders switch receivers when the ball was hiked. That would have surprised Clemson, and since the defenders would not have to cross each other and run long distances, they may have been able to intercept the second touchdown pass.
Saban went ballistic both times, especially the first.
All Alabama had to do the second time was have their two defenders switch receivers when the ball was hiked. That would have surprised Clemson, and since the defenders would not have to cross each other and run long distances, they may have been able to intercept the second touchdown pass.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 7:14 pm to ATL-TIGER-732
Defending a pick play is exactly like defending a screen. It's all about reading the signs of the setup, and reacting before the offense draws you in. In the case of the pick, you have to beat the screening WR to the spot. Adams blew up 2 in the Ole Miss game this year, because he read it (it was pretty he obvious he had seen it in film study the way he reacted) ahead of time and jumped the right route before he could be blocked. As mentioned before, you can also defend it with a switch, but most straight man teams will struggle to do that if they haven't seen the play before.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:02 pm to TdocTiger
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He contacted the DB covering him, legal within 5 yards
There's no illegal contact in college. Corners can do whatever they want in college, outside of hold. Which makes the transition to the NFL so difficult for some corners.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 8:54 pm to misey94
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but most straight man teams will struggle to do that if they haven't seen the play before.
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Clemson scored on that pick play twice.
Did you miss this part of my post?
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