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re: Was clyde the best back we have had since faulk?
Posted on 6/30/20 at 9:24 am to luciouslou
Posted on 6/30/20 at 9:24 am to luciouslou
I think Clyde ought to be in this conversation, but Fournette definitely should get the nod ahead of him. that 2015 year that Fournette had was the best year I've seen by a RB. LF7 had 6 more TDs and 300 more yards from scrimmage than Clyde did and with 3 less games.
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Posted on 6/30/20 at 9:25 am to NOSTRODAMUS
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magine Leonard Fournette in last years offense. Holy shite
Leonard would have been LSU’s second Heisman winner if he was afforded the opportunity to play in an offense like we had last year.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 9:28 am to CP3forMVP
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Fournette would have been a beast, but Guice’s ability to catch the ball out of the backfield would have been an added plus like CEH.
I think you've forgotten just how good Fournette was. Fournette caught passes 20+ yards downfield. Fournette took a swing pass 40+ yards for a TD. He caught a pass running straight up the middle of the field, for a 40 yard gain vs what was the #16 pass defense as a freshman. Over his final 3 games in that heisman level year, he had 9 receptions for 160 yards and 1 TD. In only 6 games as a junior he had 150 yards and 15 receptions. He was on pace for 30+ catches and 300+ yards.
Even now in the NFL he has 134 catches in only 36 games.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 9:29 am to 225Tyga
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But if you would have put LF7 or Jeremy hill or guice on last years team...my god
Yes, yes and Yes.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 9:32 am to luciouslou
Fournette had 2,206 total yards and 23 TDs. 319 touches, and only 12 games. CEH had 1,867 total yards and 17 TDs TDs. 270 touches, and 15 games.
Per game, Fournette was clearly more productive, but he was also the entire offense. Crazy stat, they were nearly identical in production per touch.
6.915 yards per touch for both. Fournette scored every 14.9 touches. CEH scored every 15.9.
Per game, Fournette was clearly more productive, but he was also the entire offense. Crazy stat, they were nearly identical in production per touch.
6.915 yards per touch for both. Fournette scored every 14.9 touches. CEH scored every 15.9.
This post was edited on 6/30/20 at 9:35 am
Posted on 6/30/20 at 9:43 am to Aconant10
Yeah, because it was Fournette’s decision to play 1v11 with Alabama’s defense for 60 minutes
Posted on 6/30/20 at 9:48 am to sportsman2582
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Yeah, because it was Fournette’s decision to play 1v11 with Alabama’s defense for 60 minutes
I'm still irrationally angry thinking about the complete lack of offensive innovation with all that talent we had.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 10:19 am to PhillyTiger90
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this offense just fit Clyde so much better
Posted on 6/30/20 at 10:27 am to luciouslou
Love Clyde and he deserves to be high on the list of all time RB’s in LSU history but Guice in this offense would have been insane. When they motion the RB out of the backfield if that is Guice the entire route tree is open. With Clyde, and most RB’s, you only have a handful of those routes available. People forget that Guice won the MVP Army All American Game playing WR.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 10:41 am to rondonumbanine
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This is pretty much true, but Clyde out performed both of them by a good bit against Bama. Not sure if Guice or Fournette would have made the big plays Clyde did.
You don't think the type of offense and the talent on this past season's offense had ANYTHING to do with that?
Posted on 6/30/20 at 10:42 am to lsufan_26
It has a lot to do with it and IMO in last years offense Guice would have been better than LF.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 10:46 am to luciouslou
No, but he was the perfect back, with the right skillsets, for our offense last year.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 11:03 am to dukke v
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It has a lot to do with it and IMO in last years offense Guice would have been better than LF.
Correct and if Fournette played around the times Herschel Walker and Bo Jackson played he would have probably went down as one of the greatest RB’s in the history of college football.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 11:13 am to SulphursFinest
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Fournette was better.
at catching passes? what about blocking? think total package. CEH did it all this past year
Posted on 6/30/20 at 11:19 am to luciouslou
Fournette and Guice were breaking rushing records when everyone and their momma knew they were getting the ball. You put either of them in last season’s offense, and their numbers wouldn’t be touched by anyone for a very long time.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 11:33 am to Aconant10
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Give me more burst
Fournette easily. It’s laughable that you’d put Clyde ahead of Fournette here.
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more explosiveness
Again Fournette
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more shiftiness
Yes. Clyde wins this one easily
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more heart
Probably a push, Fournette broke the single game rushing record on a bad ankle and it’s not like he avoided contact
Posted on 6/30/20 at 11:35 am to Aconant10
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LF7s games vs bama just kill it for me
You must be kidding. Leonard was up against (what seemed like) 15 in the box for 3 straight years.
This post was edited on 6/30/20 at 11:37 am
Posted on 6/30/20 at 11:36 am to luciouslou
Not sure that he was the best back since Faulk, but considering the circumstances of the game, his performance against Bama is still the greatest I've seen from any LSU RB ever.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 11:38 am to luciouslou
Clyde is an all purpose back ala Sproles. Pure running backs can pile up more rushing yards, but Clyde can hurt a defense in multiple ways.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 11:49 am to geauxtigers33
I agree with this.
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