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Wanna get really pissed off: LSU OL grades out best unit on Pro football focus

Posted on 1/4/17 at 1:40 pm
Posted by L S Usetheforce
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 1:40 pm
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As a collective unit, no offensive line performed better than that of the LSU Tigers in 2016. The group finished atop our offensive line metric, largely because all three starting interior players had overall grades of at least 74.5. The Tigers were led by C Ethan Pocic, whose overall grade of 82.7 was bolstered by his pass-blocking performance that saw him yield just 11 total pressures with no sacks or hits allowed. LG Will Clapp was also outstanding in pass protection, as he was responsible for just nine total pressures, with two hits and no sacks. RG Josh Boutte was the only member of the interior trio to give up a sack, but his lone sack charged to him was accompanied by just seven other pressures.



Sorry but they sucked against Wisconsin, Florida, and of course Bama.
This post was edited on 1/4/17 at 1:43 pm
Posted by apfour21
New Orleans, LA
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 1:42 pm to
Another example of why PFFs college rankings should not be taken as gospel truth. Their NFL ratings are pretty good but their college ratings have a lot of issues.


They rated Debo like the worst linebacker in college last year and said he shouldn't have been drafted. He went in 2nd round and is currently a DROY candidate.
This post was edited on 1/4/17 at 1:47 pm
Posted by SCwTiger
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 1:44 pm to
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 1:45 pm to
Notice they go on and on about the 3 interior players and never once mention Teheuma on the outside or Malone. They were real weaklinks out on the edges.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 1:46 pm to
the eye test says they sucked...especially against bama, auburn, and wisconsin
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 1:50 pm to
Fire Grimes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by apfour21
New Orleans, LA
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 1:51 pm to
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earned 46.8 percent of their yards before initial contact
This stat is skewed by about a dozen really long runs against some bad defensive lines.
Posted by StreetDiction
Austin
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 1:53 pm to
We also ran the ball well against a lot of teams who knew we were going to run.

Posted by chadr07
Pineville, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
7912 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 1:53 pm to
Include Louisville in there
Posted by chitiger91
Lake Bluff IL
Member since Apr 2016
3120 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 2:03 pm to
I don't care what their stupid algorithm is saying I watched every game this year and our o line was sub par at best. Against any sort of decent DLINE they crumbled in pass protection and run blocking.
Posted by HC87
Coastal NC
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 2:15 pm to
Did they watch any game we loss? OL was dominated in WISC, BAMA and UF game....and should have played better vs AUB. Better OL play (run blocking/pass protection) = more wins in 2016, period. What a farce.
Posted by SamuelClemens
Earth
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 2:20 pm to
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I don't care what their stupid algorithm is saying I watched every game


The true meaning of "the eye test" to say who is the best.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 2:31 pm to
Because our oline is good and the people that kept saying it sucks dont understand football.
This post was edited on 1/4/17 at 2:35 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 2:32 pm to
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don't care what their stupid algorithm is saying I watched every game this year and our o line was sub par at best


bullshite. Outside of bama we ran on everyone.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 2:34 pm to
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and UF game


What? We ran all over florida. Over 200 yards. Did you watch the damn game?
We gained the 2nd most yards against florida all year.

Against Wisconsin lsu had the 2nd best rushing yards per carry all year and that was with no passing game.

People that think our offensive line sucks need to stop gauging our line by what happens in the bama game. There is no line that looks good against bama.

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Did they watch any game we loss? OL was dominated in WISC, BAMA and UF gam


Apparently you didn't because our line didnt suck against wisky or uf.
This post was edited on 1/4/17 at 2:41 pm
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23327 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 2:54 pm to
The line was very up and down, dominating at times and looking lost at others. However, they do make a good point that most of us have known all along. The biggest weakness on the O Line is at the Tackles, and it's been this way for a few years now. That's where the bulk of th pressure comes from in pass protection. It's where a lot of the penetration on run plays comes from.

Another thing they don't bear in mind is that Pocic sometimes had trouble getting any push at Center against the best D Lines. It's because he's too tall to be a Center, but Miles never cared about that when it could have made a difference. At least Grimes tried to play him some at Tackle, but with the injuries we had this year, that's a difficult thing to try and implement mid-season.

The bottom line is that the interior isn't really the issue, especially going forward. We need Deculus to hit the ground running and Weathersby to stay healthy. We need real Tackles.
This post was edited on 1/4/17 at 2:55 pm
Posted by El Campo Tiger
El Campo, TX
Member since Mar 2015
10118 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 2:57 pm to
It wasn't the best against Bama.

Of course, Bama's D-Line makes a lot of O-Lines look mediocre.


Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
15248 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 3:00 pm to
The SEC office has more credibility than PFF.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
24829 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 3:19 pm to
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Wanna get really pissed off

Naa. Not gonna get pissed about a flawed ratings system. The OL was dominant at times, weak at times. Mostly above average play.

Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
22783 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 3:36 pm to
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Apparently you didn't because our line didnt suck against wisky or uf.


Yes they did.....in crucial moments in Wisconsin game the pass blocking sucked.....in fact it was terrible for most of the game.....tons of missed assignments.

Apparently you think rushing is the only component of the OL play.


Secondly, against Florida in the redzone they got zero push.....I'll give them a pass for some of it because of play calling but the final series they didn't man up anybody.

So yeah try to paint a pretty picture here.

Wanna watch a dominant OL....turn on the 2011 LSU OL......

I'd give LSU a B this year in run blocking department......they were a roller coaster in big games but they still showed up.

Pass Blocking C- at best against quality opponents.
This post was edited on 1/4/17 at 3:49 pm
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