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Posted on 3/23/09 at 9:53 pm to MightyYat
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Are you talking about the opener?? Really?? Are some of y'all just that fricking blind to see that no matter what happens in the Spring JJ has earned the right to start in September. Again, REALLY???
Why is it that one of the main things that the JL bashers have in common is a lack of basic reading skills?
I did not say that JJ wouldn't start. Pretty sure I expressly said the opposite.
Posted on 3/24/09 at 8:48 am to MightyYat
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Are you talking about the opener?? Really?? Are some of y'all just that fricking blind to see that no matter what happens in the Spring JJ has earned the right to start in September. Again, REALLY???
Dude, learn history. This was the same argument people gave after Flynn had a masterful Peach bowl performance.
Guess what? Flynn was not the starter the next year. I think after last year Miles no longer thinks someone "earns the right," They will have to produce (or did you think that that Peveto & Mallory earned their right last year?)
Posted on 3/24/09 at 8:51 am to Raparooot
This thread was doomed to be retarded from the get-go.
Posted on 3/24/09 at 8:56 am to MightyYat
quote:Lots of mental midgets on here can't read between the lines with Les Miles, even after 5 years of hearing him speak. It's downright scary.
Les is going to say all kind of shite from now until the end of Spring but it's just to keep the competition going. He knows JJ will be starting in September.
Posted on 3/24/09 at 9:04 am to Tiger_n_ATL
quote:
Lots of mental midgets on here can't read between the lines with Les Miles, even after 5 years of hearing him speak. It's downright scary.
+1
there's a agenda, and it has some racial undertones.
Posted on 3/24/09 at 9:04 am to RobbBobb
quote:
Dude, learn history. This was the same argument people gave after Flynn had a masterful Peach bowl performance.
Guess what? Flynn was not the starter the next year. I think after last year Miles no longer thinks someone "earns the right," They will have to produce (or did you think that that Peveto & Mallory earned their right last year?)
Am I to believe that Lee will take the starting spot back and be the #1 overall pick in the NFL draft? I think you need to be the one that learns your history. Jamarcus' talent >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything JL will ever be.
quote:
Lots of mental midgets on here can't read between the lines with Les Miles, even after 5 years of hearing him speak. It's downright scary.
Including yourself. Les has already hinted at JJ being the starter. Why do y'all have such a hard-on for JL? Just wondering. I try not to cut the kid down like most of the other idiots on this board but when I saw JJ look off the safety in the two games he played that was enough for me. He obviously sees something that Lee either just can't or he doesn't understand what the defenses are doing. Either way, give me JJ in September.
eta: Nothing like a supposed "QB race" to keep the rant chugging along right through the summer.
Posted on 3/24/09 at 9:06 am to TheDoc
quote:
+1
there's a agenda, and it has some racial undertones.
Posted on 3/24/09 at 9:09 am to MightyYat
Doc always, and I mean ALWAYS, plays the race card.
This post was edited on 3/24/09 at 9:10 am
Posted on 3/24/09 at 9:16 am to ForeLSU
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do you think we're set at QB or will we struggle at the position next season?
I’ve said it before. We will struggle again this year. Teams now have film on JJ. And he will go through all of the growing pains that anyone would as a new starter, especially as a young starter. (Just as JL did last year.) Also a big difference playing Florida, Bama and such as compared to a bad Arkansas team and an over rated GT team. If you don’t believe that and think that he will play like a Heisman canidate all year, then well, what can I say to that?
I think JL will improve greatly to this year. Just as I would expect JJ to improve greatly to the next year if he plays all season. I really don’t care who starts as long as they are the best we have.
If your team is set up right, you hand off the starting job to a junior or RS junior, so that they have time to learn, adjust and gain experience leading up to being the starter. Perfect example was RP. He was being properly groomed to be the starter in time. (Had he stayed, JL or JJ or whoever would have been properly groomed to be the next starter.)
The problems JL had last year and the problems that JJ (yes he will have many) this year are a result of RP screwing up the normal flow of having players ready. He is who I blame our QB problems on. Kid had the world in his hands and threw it away. Hope for his future he gets it right.
This post was edited on 3/24/09 at 9:23 am
Posted on 3/24/09 at 9:20 am to TigersRuleTheEarth
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Doc always, and I mean ALWAYS, plays the race card.
not always.
but you'd be silly to believe that there aren't STILL people in louisiana who are LSU fans in 2009 who'd rather have a white guy for a QB over a black guy based on race alone.
This post was edited on 3/24/09 at 9:22 am
Posted on 3/24/09 at 9:22 am to Tiger55
oh, and that's my friend megan.
haha
Posted on 3/24/09 at 9:29 am to MightyYat
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Why do y'all have such a hard-on for JL? Just wondering. I try not to cut the kid down like most of the other idiots on this board but when I saw JJ look off the safety in the two games he played that was enough for me. He obviously sees something that Lee either just can't or he doesn't understand what the defenses are doing. Either way, give me JJ in September.
Can't speak for others, but my problem with this sort of opinion is that you and many others assume that because JJ had two good games, that he will necessarily be better this year. Those two games may have been the peak of JJ's ability. JL may have vastly improved in the off season. You can't decide who was the better QB based SOLELY on last season. Heck, if their roles were reversed and JJ started the season with JL coming on in the last few games it's not crazy to think that JL would have performed better.
All I'm saying is that JL has a ton of talent and has the ability to improve over what was seen in his FRESHMAN season. I will support whoever lines up behind center, but I think that most of the rant will not support JL if he legitimately wins the starting job with superior play.
fwiw, I would prefer to see JJ win the job.
Posted on 3/24/09 at 9:46 am to TheDoc
While I do believe there is racism in the world I don't believe that it enters into LSU sports as much as you do.
Do you remember the thread at the begining of the basketball season that said LSU fans won't support basketball because the skin color of the players was obvious to the fans? I think that is the type of race baiting that makes for good articles, but very poorly reflects reality. After the basketball team got eliminated Saturday this board was nothing but basketball threads. The baseball game was all but forgotten.
From that observation I concluded that it wasn't the players' skin color, but was in fact that the team has stunk for a while...but I digress.
While I understand what you are saying about racial undertones with the JL/JJ debate I don't think it holds any water. Believe it or not there are people that think JL has the right to compete for the starting QB position just like JJ. I happen to be one of them and race doesn't even enter my mind until someone like you brings it up. I realize there are racist and that will never change, but the blanket statement that people who have the same opinion as me are somehow biased based on the players' race is just jumping to conclusions.
Do you remember the thread at the begining of the basketball season that said LSU fans won't support basketball because the skin color of the players was obvious to the fans? I think that is the type of race baiting that makes for good articles, but very poorly reflects reality. After the basketball team got eliminated Saturday this board was nothing but basketball threads. The baseball game was all but forgotten.
From that observation I concluded that it wasn't the players' skin color, but was in fact that the team has stunk for a while...but I digress.
While I understand what you are saying about racial undertones with the JL/JJ debate I don't think it holds any water. Believe it or not there are people that think JL has the right to compete for the starting QB position just like JJ. I happen to be one of them and race doesn't even enter my mind until someone like you brings it up. I realize there are racist and that will never change, but the blanket statement that people who have the same opinion as me are somehow biased based on the players' race is just jumping to conclusions.
Posted on 3/24/09 at 9:46 am to TheDoc
quote:Really? Do you honestly believe that y'all are blinded by hatred of Lee's race? Do you think that is what makes people like Raparoot incapble of grasping the reality that no one knows the future?
there's a agenda, and it has some racial undertones
Posted on 3/24/09 at 9:54 am to MightyYat
quote:That is the funniest thing I've heard in a LONG time. The idea of one of y'all suggesting that someone ELSE is the one with a "hard on" for a sophomore QB is hilarious. Y'all are the ones insisting that it is absolutely impossible for a 2 1/2 game performance that only produced two good halves (1st half vs. Arky and GT) to mean anything other than he will be a starter the next fall. Not that he's "more likely", or "in the lead", but ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE TO FAIL. The opening post emphasized the claim that it is a FACT. That is to say IT CANNOT BE POSSIBLE that anything change from December to September.
Why do y'all have such a hard-on for JL?
THAT is what the rational, sane people are pointing out as absurd. If anyone was suggesting that there is little chance, or less chance for Lee to win the starting spot, then there would be no argument. But no. The absolutely stupid morons populating this board are so obsessed with resentment for Lee (according to Doc, apparently motivated by racism) that they have to insist that it CANNOT BE POSSIBLE. And that is absolutely stupid.
Posted on 3/24/09 at 9:56 am to King Joey
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That is the funniest thing I've heard in a LONG time. The idea of one of y'all suggesting that someone ELSE is the one with a "hard on" for a sophomore QB is hilarious. Y'all are the ones insisting that it is absolutely impossible for a 2 1/2 game performance that only produced two good halves (1st half vs. Arky and GT) to mean anything other than he will be a starter the next fall. Not that he's "more likely", or "in the lead", but ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE TO FAIL. The opening post emphasized the claim that it is a FACT. That is to say IT CANNOT BE POSSIBLE that anything change from December to September. THAT is what the rational, sane people are pointing out as absurd. If anyone was suggesting that there is little chance, or less chance for Lee to win the starting spot, then there would be no argument. But no. The absolutely stupid morons populating this board are so obsessed with resentment for Lee (according to Doc, apparently motivated by racism) that they have to insist that it CANNOT BE POSSIBLE. And that is absolutely stupid.
+1
Good to see that at least one person on the Rant sees things rationally.
This post was edited on 3/24/09 at 9:58 am
Posted on 3/24/09 at 9:58 am to TheDoc
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but you'd be silly to believe that there aren't STILL people in louisiana who are LSU fans in 2009 who'd rather have a white guy for a QB over a black guy based on race alone
Uh, okay. So what about the "LSU fans" who will insist that a QB with about a games' worth of good performance in a 2 1/2 game career cannot possibly be surpassed on the depth chart so long as he's black? Because, you know, that is the only absurdly irrational position in this thread, since NO ONE has tried to make the absurd claim that Lee will absolutely positively be the starter. Unlike the opening post's claim regarding Jefferson.
Posted on 3/24/09 at 9:58 am to LA007
some fans actually think that Coach Miles will split the QB duties this season between JJ and JL? are you kidding me? it's 100% positively JJ's job unless he gets hurt. It's going to be JJ starting and taking almost all the snaps this year with Shepard taking a few just to add some trickery and give him some experience.
Posted on 3/24/09 at 10:01 am to tigersnsaints
quote:There goes that Rant rationality. Gotta love that logic. So I assume with your ability to see the future you'll be winning all the lottery drawings from now on. Congrats on that.
it's 100% positively JJ's job unless he gets hurt.
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