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re: Unless J.J. gets hurt he will be the starting Q.B.
Posted on 3/24/09 at 10:04 am to King Joey
Posted on 3/24/09 at 10:04 am to King Joey
it's just my opinion...this is the rant isn't?...it doesn't take a genius to see that Jefferson knew what the heck he was doing a lot more than Lee did last season
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Posted on 3/24/09 at 10:05 am to tigersnsaints
King Joey has nothing better to do but dog everybody's opinions
Posted on 3/24/09 at 10:08 am to Raparooot
Of course Lee is doing good in practice. He performs great in any situation where the pressure isn't on him: for instance,
1) the auburn game. He came off the bench as a back up. He was not really expected to perform well, just to take some snaps. Then he won the game.
2) the troy state game. Everyone had already left the building, except of course for myself and the 300,000 other people who claim to have been there. But seriously - no one was watching, and we were down by 28 - nothing to lose.
1) the auburn game. He came off the bench as a back up. He was not really expected to perform well, just to take some snaps. Then he won the game.
2) the troy state game. Everyone had already left the building, except of course for myself and the 300,000 other people who claim to have been there. But seriously - no one was watching, and we were down by 28 - nothing to lose.
Posted on 3/24/09 at 10:08 am to tigersnsaints
quote:Yes. And your opinion (as you stated it) is that there is no possibility that Lee could beat out Jefferson. As such, it is an absurd one.
it's just my opinion
quote:Again, yes. However, some people appear capable of retaining some degree of rational cognitive ability while posting here. At least the minute amount necessary to avoid such completely irrational statements as claiming to have infallibly certain knowlege regarding the future of two teenage college athletes.
this is the rant isn't?...
Posted on 3/24/09 at 10:10 am to tigersnsaints
quote:
King Joey has nothing better to do but dog everybody's opinions
It's pretty fun when your opinions suck.
Posted on 3/24/09 at 10:10 am to tigersnsaints
quote:No, not everybody's. Only the ones that are laughably clueless, counterproductive, or outright destructive to the program. In your case, I do not feel your opinion was destructive, nor indeed totally counterproductive.
King Joey has nothing better to do but dog everybody's opinions
Posted on 3/24/09 at 10:16 am to tigersnsaints
quote:
.it doesn't take a genius to see that Jefferson knew what the heck he was doing a lot more than Lee did last season
Why can't you realize that last season's performance does not equate to ability to succeed THIS YEAR? Sure, they may be correlated, probably strongly correlated, but to say with certainty that last season's performance (limited as it was, by the way) will equate to results this year, is very irrational.
Posted on 3/24/09 at 10:16 am to King Joey
sorry ya'll...i changed my mind..Jarett Lee is awesome and will start for LSU this coming season because of his awesome ability to scan the field properly, not throw pick-6s almost every game and really take charge of the team. Y'all have changed me...i now can see the light...ya'll are right Lee is better than Jefferson...sorry i ticked Hot Babe Carl and the Queen off and i am now on your team...Lee's awesome
Posted on 3/24/09 at 10:19 am to tigersnsaints
quote:Probably a good idea.
sorry ya'll...i changed my mind
quote:Possible, though unlikely.
Jarett Lee is awesome and will start for LSU this coming season
quote:Still having problems in that "rationality" area, I see. And in reading.
ya'll are right Lee is better than Jefferson
quote:If you mean "your team" as in "LSU fans," I assumed you were all along. If you mean "your team" as in rational people with rational, potentially un-stupid opinions, then your still a ways away.
i am now on your team
Posted on 3/24/09 at 10:20 am to jholme9
All we have as evidence to look at is the past, really.
will JL improve? I certainly hope so.
will JJ improve? I certainly hope so too.
Jarret Lee could be the next tommy hodson.
or, he could be the next chris rix.
will JL improve? I certainly hope so.
will JJ improve? I certainly hope so too.
Jarret Lee could be the next tommy hodson.
or, he could be the next chris rix.
Posted on 3/24/09 at 10:20 am to tigersnsaints
quote:
sorry ya'll...i changed my mind..Jarett Lee is awesome and will start for LSU this coming season because of his awesome ability to scan the field properly, not throw pick-6s almost every game and really take charge of the team. Y'all have changed me...i now can see the light...ya'll are right Lee is better than Jefferson...sorry i ticked Hot Babe Carl and the Queen off and i am now on your team...Lee's awesome
Come on, tigersnsaints. You've got to be able to see that the argument isn't that JL is better than JJ or that JL should be the starter. We're arguing that to say that JJ is 100% without a doubt the starting QB is stupid. Nobody will argue with you (well they probably will, but they shouldn't) if you say that you think JJ is the better QB and that he deserves to start. It's when you say that there's no way that JL can win the job, that people attack you.
Posted on 3/24/09 at 10:23 am to TheDoc
quote:Or, even more likely, somewhere in between. All of which is exactly why assertions like the one that opened this thread and the one reiterated a few posts ago are stupid. Any claim that any result in this QB race is "guaranteed" or "100% positive" to occur is just ignorant, both of the specific situation and of football in general.
Jarret Lee could be the next tommy hodson.
or, he could be the next chris rix.
Posted on 3/24/09 at 10:23 am to Lurker50
quote:
Of course Lee is doing good in practice. He performs great in any situation where the pressure isn't on him: for instance,
1) the auburn game.
I've heard a bunch of bull shite in my life, but to call the Auburn game a no pressure situation is bordering on mentally retarded.
This thread keeps getting better.
Posted on 3/24/09 at 10:24 am to TheDoc
Not arguing with looking at past performance as a gauge. That's why I said that past and future performance are highly correlated. But to say that past performance = future performance is just wrong.
Like you pointed out, JL could be a chump (a lot like he was last year) or great. We can't know. So to discount him as a potential contributor at QB is just stupid.
ETA: We also have current performance to consider. Many on this board want the coaches to make the starting QB determination based solely on last year's performance instead of taking offseason practice into consideration as well.
Like you pointed out, JL could be a chump (a lot like he was last year) or great. We can't know. So to discount him as a potential contributor at QB is just stupid.
ETA: We also have current performance to consider. Many on this board want the coaches to make the starting QB determination based solely on last year's performance instead of taking offseason practice into consideration as well.
This post was edited on 3/24/09 at 10:27 am
Posted on 3/24/09 at 10:27 am to TigersRuleTheEarth
quote:
but to call the Auburn game a no pressure situation is bordering on mentally retarded.
+1
BUT - in hindsight, auburn wasn't any good in the first place.
Posted on 3/24/09 at 10:27 am to jholme9
ya'll both are taking this rant thing a little too seriously...i'll admit i'm not a very smart LSU fan or ranter and i can't even use long, smart words in my sentences like ya'll do...i am a die-hard LSU fanatic just like ya'll both and i was just messin with ya...i like all LSU fans and respect your opinions..i really believe Lee and Jefferson are getting better now and that's what is the most important...sorry for ticking ya'll off
Posted on 3/24/09 at 10:29 am to tigersnsaints
I'm not ticked off. I just hope that if Lee wins the starting job (which is a possibility despite the thread's title) that LSU fans will support him. Based on the majority of posts on this board, I don't see that happening.
Posted on 3/24/09 at 10:30 am to jholme9
agree with most of your points, BUT:
practice is one thing, games are another.
lee looked SCARED against everyone he played against. did he take some hits?
sure he did.
but most of the time he would sacrifice yards or making a play to not get hit.
of course throwing off his back foot to a receiver he locked onto for 4 seconds while throwing into triple coverage probably didn't help either
practice is one thing, games are another.
lee looked SCARED against everyone he played against. did he take some hits?
sure he did.
but most of the time he would sacrifice yards or making a play to not get hit.
of course throwing off his back foot to a receiver he locked onto for 4 seconds while throwing into triple coverage probably didn't help either
Posted on 3/24/09 at 10:32 am to TheDoc
quote:
BUT - in hindsight, auburn wasn't any good in the first place.
Yeah, but JL didn't know that at the time.
Posted on 3/24/09 at 10:34 am to TigersRuleTheEarth
quote:
Yeah, but JL didn't know that at the time
none of us did.
they were a ranked team.
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