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re: True or False? (why so many of us are so pissed)

Posted on 9/27/10 at 9:16 pm to
Posted by Common sence
Gilbert ,Az
Member since Nov 2009
1013 posts
Posted on 9/27/10 at 9:16 pm to
False, most were still pissed from the last two years.
Posted by Hester Fan
Member since Nov 2007
554 posts
Posted on 9/27/10 at 9:17 pm to
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What a absolute JOKE. I just don't get it at all. I really don't.


No do I.
Posted by Paulu
Mandeville
Member since Dec 2006
4440 posts
Posted on 9/27/10 at 9:17 pm to
Miles cost us in 2006 too. We should have won that AU game despite the refs.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16652 posts
Posted on 9/27/10 at 10:32 pm to
Mostly true.

So much potential yet so much underachieving.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 9/27/10 at 10:38 pm to
right on. if the rest of the team was mediocre i wouldn't be as concerned. we got a chance to do great things if our O can step it up.
Posted by sheek
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Sep 2007
43895 posts
Posted on 9/27/10 at 10:46 pm to
Our O hasn't stepped it up since the end of 2007. What leads you to believe this year will be different.
Posted by inadaze
Member since Aug 2010
4890 posts
Posted on 9/27/10 at 10:47 pm to
True

And, its not just that for me. We have a lot of talent on offense, so the offense should be better. We have elite, NFL-type talent at WR, but in the first few games we did not get the QB in a rhythm with them. Instead we had him running indecisively on option plays apparently to open up the middle of the defense for Ridley, which maybe has been somewhat successful. But throwing the ball can do the same thing. I think the whole situation has messed with Jefferson's head. We might just need a fresh start with Lee at this point, or a new OC.

Posted by TIsuGGER
Member since Apr 2009
2321 posts
Posted on 9/27/10 at 10:52 pm to
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I think the whole situation has messed with Jefferson's head. We might just need a fresh start with Lee at this point, or a new OC.

JJ would not start with a new OC
Posted by Tiger Stadium 11
Charleston, SC
Member since Oct 2009
5216 posts
Posted on 9/28/10 at 8:17 pm to
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False, most were still pissed from the last two years.


SO you really beleive that if the rest of our team wasnt as good this year and our fan base didnt see that the only thing holding this team back from being a championship team was offense, people would still feel as bitter towards the offense?
Posted by LSUmomma
Member since Sep 2007
7952 posts
Posted on 9/28/10 at 8:22 pm to
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With the defense and special teams unit being on a championship level, we feel super frustrated that the offense cant even be on a WAC level!



I agree that the offense is painful... but you do realize that people are calling to fire the same coach that has everything else at the "championship level" that you are so stoked about, right???
Posted by Tiger Stadium 11
Charleston, SC
Member since Oct 2009
5216 posts
Posted on 9/28/10 at 8:27 pm to
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but you do realize that people are calling to fire the same coach that has everything else at the "championship level" that you are so stoked about, right???


Yea because none of that matters if the third part cant pull through. A chain is only as strong as the weakest link!
Posted by LSUmomma
Member since Sep 2007
7952 posts
Posted on 9/28/10 at 8:30 pm to
[quote]Yea because none of that matters if the third part cant pull through. A chain is only as strong as the weakest link!


but if he was able to strengthen what used to be the weakest link(s), then why do people demand that he is too stupid/stubborn to fix this one?

And ftr, I have thought for a year now that Crowton is a drain on this team, and wish he was long gone by now... I wish that $$$ would have allowed Miles to show him the door at the end of last season, but it didn't work out. I am praying that it can happen this year...



Posted by Tiger Stadium 11
Charleston, SC
Member since Oct 2009
5216 posts
Posted on 9/28/10 at 8:36 pm to
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then why do people demand that he is too stupid/stubborn to fix this one?


Because with the defense he saw the problem, accepted there was a problem, dealt with it and got a good coach, and showed improvement.

However with the offense, he clearly hasnts seen the problem or hasnt accepted there is a problem. He hasnt dealt with it, he has kept the same coach here calling the shots(and even though he got knew ones he isnt letting there presence be felt), and the offense has shown no improvement and has actually regressed because of poorer execution of the same old song and dance. (And this is mainly directed towards the passing game even though the fumblese in the running game have sometimes been worry-some).

So Thats why!
Posted by LSUmomma
Member since Sep 2007
7952 posts
Posted on 9/28/10 at 8:41 pm to
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Because with the defense he saw the problem, accepted there was a problem, dealt with it and got a good coach, and showed improvement




This is so damned funny because all through the '08 season, the EXACT same stuff that people are saying about Miles in regard to the offense/playcalling/coordinator were being said about the defense/playcalling/coordinator(s)!!!

Every other post was about how Miles was too ignorant/stubborn/clueless to do the right thing about the dismal defensive situation...

Just because Les Miles hasn't paid for a billboard on I-10 telling everyone that Crowton has cardboard boxes next to his desk doesn't mean that he doesn't see the problem and know it has to be addressed!!
Posted by MP34LSU
Leesville, LA
Member since Sep 2010
17 posts
Posted on 9/28/10 at 8:44 pm to
Hooah! to that!
Posted by Tiger Stadium 11
Charleston, SC
Member since Oct 2009
5216 posts
Posted on 9/28/10 at 8:55 pm to
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Just because Les Miles hasn't paid for a billboard on I-10 telling everyone that Crowton has cardboard boxes next to his desk doesn't mean that he doesn't see the problem and know it has to be addressed!!


Really? His actions this off-season scream alot louder to the fans than any billboard could! I was going by the fact that the offense sucked last year and Crowton should have been fired then just like Mallevto was promptly shown the door after one bad season. However he was not and all Miles keep saying is the QB play has to improve. But he never does anything to lead us fans to believe he is doing any thing about it. It really not that hard to give such a passionate fan base alittle bit of hope that smoething could improve in the near future with our QBs or flat out tell us we got what we got.

If the QB race is really as close as he says, well prove it to us fans by giving Lee a shot. 3 straight games with under 100 yards passing without the backup getting a chance would not happen at many schools in country regardless of their record. And if the QB race is not as close as Les says, Les should not have told us it was in the first place. It probly wouldve saved him alot of heat from the fans.
Posted by RockChalkTiger
A Little Bit South of Saskatoon
Member since May 2009
10583 posts
Posted on 9/28/10 at 8:57 pm to
We do NOT have a championship team, even with perfect QB play. We started out way too low in the polls, which would mean we would have to be perfect (which even the '03 and '07 teams couldn't pull off) just to get to the position Auburn was in in 2004.

Yet another reason we need a playoff. We DO have a team that could make a 16-team playoff and then have a shot at running the table. But there's no way we could get into the Top-2, considering what TCU, Boise, Oregon and Ohio State have left on their schedules.
Posted by LSUmomma
Member since Sep 2007
7952 posts
Posted on 9/28/10 at 9:07 pm to
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Really? His actions this off-season scream alot louder to the fans than any billboard could! I was going by the fact that the offense sucked last year and Crowton should have been fired then just like Mallevto was promptly shown the door after one bad season.


there were A LOT of reports that Miles tried to ditch Crowton after last year, and $$$ was a big issue and he was blocked... I tend to believe that..


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all Miles keep saying is the QB play has to improve.


Well, it REALLY does, doesn't it. A lot of people are around here saying the he hasn't even acknowledged that there is even a problem, so you're ahead of the game with that...

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But he never does anything to lead us fans to believe he is doing any thing about it.


He's said that he knows it's a problem, and has to be improved.. why do you think he's not doing anything?

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or flat out tell us we got what we got.


so you really want him to come out at the pressor and say, "We really don't have any promise at the QB position. We are going to have to run the ball all the time, as neither of our QBs shows the ability to throw consistently.. hopefully a JUCO transfer in the next class is going to be our next hope here... thanks and enjoy the Ridley show the rest of this season.. have a semi-great day..."
Posted by JawjaTigah
Bizarro World
Member since Sep 2003
22516 posts
Posted on 9/28/10 at 9:12 pm to
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So much potential yet so much underachieving.

This is where I get crazy because I see all the absolute talent that is on our Offense being wasted, mishandled, coddled, or in some other way being poorly coached. Results are what they are - yes, LSU is currently 4-0, but unless something changes on the Offensive side of things, this is about as good as it will get.
Posted by JawjaTigah
Bizarro World
Member since Sep 2003
22516 posts
Posted on 9/28/10 at 9:17 pm to
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We do NOT have a championship team, even with perfect QB play. We started out way too low in the polls,
Not a championship team? May I ask what the polls have to do with being the SEC champion? At the present moment, that is within reach -- big IF -- IF LSU had a decent offense to go with the great defense and ST play we're putting out there every week. The Tigers could be contending for this coveted spot.

And then, correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like the road to the National Championship has been paved through the SECCG for quite a few years now.
This post was edited on 9/28/10 at 9:18 pm
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