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re: This is not the LSU Baseball we love

Posted on 3/25/12 at 7:27 am to
Posted by Springlake Tiger
Uptown
Member since Aug 2006
15531 posts
Posted on 3/25/12 at 7:27 am to
This is also not the same college baseball environment either. The competition is WAY better than it was when Skip was coach. Skip was great, but he wouldn't dominate now the way he did.
Posted by Holden Caulfield
Hanging with J.D.
Member since May 2008
8308 posts
Posted on 3/25/12 at 8:10 am to
LSU baseball has been mediocre more than its been stellar under CPM. He's never been a great game manager but now it could be argued he's a poor evaluator of talent.

Football aside, this is not the golden age of Tiger athletics as both the basketball and baseball teams are in decline.

We consider ourselves to be an unique athletic department but there are a number of SEC schools who we traditionally looked down upon who have surpassed us in recent years.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77358 posts
Posted on 3/25/12 at 8:28 am to
This thread is funny
Posted by WestonTiger
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2009
52 posts
Posted on 3/25/12 at 8:49 am to
I think someone else mentioned this...

LSU HR total on year = 10

Florida HR total on year = 37

IMO this speaks volumes. Other top SEC teams still have the hitters...LSU doesn't. It can be done, but whether it be coaching or lack of talent...LSU isn't where it use to be. Claiming it can't be done anymore is false IMO as shown by Florida's ability to hit. I love LSU baseball but this year doesn't look promising.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31818 posts
Posted on 3/25/12 at 9:13 am to
quote:

LSU coaches cannot evaluate hitters.


I would just like to point out that the coaches are big enough dumbasses that a couple of years they cut our best hitter Rhymes and thats why he went to LSUE. How anyone has faith in this coaching staff in finding hitters is beyond me.
Posted by tirebiter
7K R&G chile land aka SF
Member since Oct 2006
9188 posts
Posted on 3/25/12 at 9:14 am to
Yeah, man, those Zuniga's, Tuckers, and Fontana's grow on trees. Hell, every team has a catcher with power and speed that will be a high MLB draftee, and at least 3-4 guys capable of hitting 10-15 HR's a season these days.....
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20442 posts
Posted on 3/25/12 at 9:41 am to
Has LSU hit into a record number of ground outs to short/2nd and into double plays? If not a record yet, it's gotta be damn close.
Posted by bigjon1229
Member since Mar 2012
20 posts
Posted on 3/25/12 at 9:41 am to
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Yeah, man, those Zuniga's, Tuckers, and Fontana's grow on trees. Hell, every team has a catcher with power and speed that will be a high MLB draftee, and at least 3-4 guys capable of hitting 10-15 HR's a season these days.....

I think you missed his very valid point. Why can't we recruit those guys at LSU? Everyone keeps referencing the baseball draft as if LSU is the only school that is affected by it. How do schools like Florida and South Carolina handle it and we don't? In a word...better head coaches.
This post was edited on 3/25/12 at 9:50 am
Posted by bperki6
The light side of the moon
Member since Feb 2008
556 posts
Posted on 3/25/12 at 9:46 am to
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LSU HR total on year = 10

Florida HR total on year = 37


Why do our hitters look like horse jockeys? Bring back the gorillaz.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20442 posts
Posted on 3/25/12 at 9:48 am to
And on that same note, why is it that the company line for hitting woes at LSU is, "well when they changed the bats..."

Doesn't seem to affect other teams to the extent it supposedly does at LSU.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
26244 posts
Posted on 3/25/12 at 10:13 am to
I really don't care to get into hitting, recruiting, assistant coaches, talent evaluation etc. All I care about is winning, and LSU fielding a consistent winner.

LSU is, without question, a Top5 Baseball program. It is unacceptable to have 3 consecutive seasons of mediocre/inconsistent play. Losing 2/3 at Auburn, in and of itself, is not really that big a deal ... but that series merely highlights the fears that most of us have that 2012 will be no different than the last two seasons.

I'll stick with the team the rest of this way, and there is indeed a long way to go in the 2012 season, but if this season ends up similar to the last two seasons, there is no question IMO that something has to change.
This post was edited on 3/25/12 at 10:15 am
Posted by TG
Metairie
Member since Sep 2004
3057 posts
Posted on 3/25/12 at 11:28 am to
Yesterday was another example of poor coaching. But I've become used to poor coaching from 3rd base sending runners when they should be held up. This is the first area that needs to be fixed.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
26244 posts
Posted on 3/25/12 at 7:08 pm to
We need to find a way to go at least 3-3 in these next 6 games vs ark/fla....
Posted by LSU=Champions
BAWxtard | Tier 1
Member since Apr 2004
22257 posts
Posted on 3/25/12 at 7:10 pm to
quote:

We need to find a way to go at least 3-3 in these next 6 games vs ark/fla....


Might be asking for too much there...
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143616 posts
Posted on 3/25/12 at 7:26 pm to
quote:

Yesterday was another example of poor coaching. But I've become used to poor coaching from 3rd base sending runners when they should be held up. This is the first area that needs to be fixed.


the poor coaching originates from the dugout. Mainieri is either a half assed baseball mind or he doesn't give a frick. Putting Katz in center was laughable.
Posted by Broham
Crowley
Member since Feb 2005
18384 posts
Posted on 3/25/12 at 8:54 pm to
quote:

Putting Katz in center was laughable.

Yep
Posted by ginms
Ridgeland Ms
Member since Aug 2007
1885 posts
Posted on 3/25/12 at 9:35 pm to
now you know what the expense is of becoming like the rest of the schools. Building new bigger and better ballparks. Making stadiums look like everyone else's stadiums. Putting crappy music in the stadium because other stadiums are doing it... you can see the cost of becoming like everyone else. Tiger Stadium is gone and so is the Box. Now is all happy?
Posted by I Speak As I Please
Seaside, FL
Member since May 2011
790 posts
Posted on 3/25/12 at 9:56 pm to
quote:

This is not the LSU Baseball we love


We aren't very good.

The fact that we have this good of pitching and we'll probably be a bubble team for the NCAA Tournament again is a joke.

CPM only did half of what he should have after last season. He shipped off Grewe and brought in a top notch pitching coach. You see the results. He should have made a clean sweep and hired an experienced hitting coach coach as well. Javi-Que just aint cuttin the mustard.
Posted by trebmalenad
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2006
138 posts
Posted on 3/26/12 at 8:30 am to
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This season is not over but with road series in Florida, Kentucky, and South Carolina, you can add another 9 losses right there.


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