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Posted on 8/31/14 at 8:59 am to
Posted by STEVED00
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Posted on 8/31/14 at 8:59 am to
Diarse blocking in similar to JL. This works all the time yet we continue to go heavy to start games.

I know Les is trying to limit TOs but you can still play conservative and still create mismatches with ur personnel.
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 8/31/14 at 9:00 am to
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Our WRs vs extra DBs is a much better mismatch in the running game then TEs vs extra DL/LBs. This happens every game yet we always go back to "heavy" sets to start the ball game.




yep. it's nuts. if our WR's are beating their DB's that easily. we should run out of 3 or 4 wide all night from the gun. force them to take guys out the box or bring down safetys on the edge for help. when they do pound them into submission. good thing is we did pound against nickel sets.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/31/14 at 9:01 am to
yeah i would rather have 2 TEs or a big blocking WR blocking than a short, slow FB who can't do anything else (except one of the 4 plays all year when the other D shows they respect him slightly less than 0 and leaves him open by 35 yards)

there is a reason elite college offenses and teh NFL does not use those types of players anymore
Posted by tiger chaser
Birmingham Ala
Member since Feb 2008
7624 posts
Posted on 8/31/14 at 9:02 am to
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Don't forget this one... Les and Chavis still have to wait to half time to make adjustments.


Do you know anything about football? Majority of teams do this. How games are won.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/31/14 at 9:02 am to
quote:

if our WR's are beating their DB's that easily. we should run out of 3 or 4 wide all night from the gun. force them to take guys out the box or bring down safetys on the edge for help. when they do pound them into submission.

back when les took over in 2005, it was excusable that he didn't know about/believe in the ability to run from 4 WR sets

in 2014, there is no excuse. that is the dominant style of offense in CFB. it has been proven for 15+ years that it's possible
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 8/31/14 at 9:02 am to
you can wear out a big front 7 with horizontal stretches then go north south out of 3 and 4 wide all night. especially with a hurry up offense.
Posted by RubbaMaka0802
Member since May 2013
523 posts
Posted on 8/31/14 at 9:09 am to
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Tough to run up the middle with 9 guys waiting for you. They did great when we went 3 wide


I think I said this word for word about 200 times last night. Ditch the full back, bring in an extra wide out. Spread em out just a little bit. Thins out the box on running plays and gives you more options on passing plays. We did this more in the 4th qtr.
Posted by mikeytig
NE of Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2007
7093 posts
Posted on 8/31/14 at 9:09 am to
Offensive line very confused with Wisconsin DL stunts.

Hilliard was the best running back out there. Ran fast and with authority.

TEs choked in the clutch

Right now Diarse and Hilliard need to be on that field.

Until Les gets out of the 70s offense every game gonna be a dog fight. We will see better DLs then Wisconsin.

Could be the worst DL at LSU in some time. They were killed last night.

Still no tempo/rhythm with either QB. Hopefully this will change.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56667 posts
Posted on 8/31/14 at 9:12 am to
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I'll say that last night will likely be the best run defense they see all year.



You are very, very wrong.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56483 posts
Posted on 8/31/14 at 9:13 am to
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but running an offense with an extremely limited FB
How is he limited?
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 8/31/14 at 9:14 am to
one drop because he fell in a patch of open grass, one horrific fumble and another drop on one that needs to be pulled in by a good tightend, also had our 285 tightend fail to pass protect or run block well. I guess it could have just been a bad game but they looked bad and should feel bad
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22388 posts
Posted on 8/31/14 at 9:15 am to
LSU needs to park Neighbors. If they are determined to use a FB then put Dickson or one on the RBs there bc they at least need to be accounted for my the defense.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22388 posts
Posted on 8/31/14 at 9:16 am to
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How is he limited?


He is not a threat to make a play so whoever is supposed to cover him can make plays elsewhere.
Posted by 3D
NJ
Member since Sep 2013
1028 posts
Posted on 8/31/14 at 9:20 am to
#89 Smith CAN NOT drop a pass like that on 3rd down....& Quinn did some nice blocking down field. Lets hope that never wears off
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39618 posts
Posted on 8/31/14 at 9:24 am to
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He is not a threat to make a play so whoever is supposed to cover him can make plays elsewhere.


This is embarrassingly wrong.
Posted by mlminbtr
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2003
651 posts
Posted on 8/31/14 at 9:25 am to
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LF underwhelming but we know will shine


I'm not sure he was underwhelming. It seems that it would be difficult to be effective when he gets 8 touches on 8 appearances in the game and everyone on the field knows he's getting the ball. I don't profess to be a football expert, but how good could superman be if all 11 defenders know when he's getting the ball?
This post was edited on 8/31/14 at 9:36 am
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 8/31/14 at 9:26 am to
I learned that LSU's last two classes have been elite.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/31/14 at 9:26 am to
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How is he limited?

he's short, slow, and not explosive

he'll make the occasional catch when he's open by 15 yards, but that just means you see how much respect the D has for him

which proves my point (that having him as a base offensive player means we're playing 10 on 11)
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22388 posts
Posted on 8/31/14 at 9:26 am to
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This is embarrassingly wrong.


Sorry Mr. Neighbors.
Posted by monceaux
Houston
Member since Sep 2013
1182 posts
Posted on 8/31/14 at 9:26 am to
You run it up the middle a lot in the first half and wear those DL out. Wave after wave of it... IF you can stay in the game. Once we got in the second half, we showed 'em different looks, wore them down and had 4 scoring drives.

Who we is.
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