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re: The team has made major improvement

Posted on 10/14/14 at 10:35 am to
Posted by Grit-Eating Shin
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Posted on 10/14/14 at 10:35 am to
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But it doesnt change the fact that Florida is a cellar dweller SEC team this year.
Have you seen how bad the East is? Florida may end up second in that division.
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 10/14/14 at 10:35 am to
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But 14 of those points were a result of bad, bad punt coverage on our part.
So those points don't count? My college coach stressed....3 phases of football....offense, defense and special teams.
Posted by tjohn deaux
GA
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 10/14/14 at 10:35 am to
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We need to temper our expectations.

if only
This post was edited on 10/14/14 at 10:37 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95957 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 10:36 am to
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The punt returns are the only reason it was close
Without the punt returns they still have 300 yards. Actually, it would be more because the returns took yardage away from their offense(unless you assume we would have held them to 0 yards on those drives) They scored 10 points off punt returns, so lets assume without them they score 3-7. Still not good from our defense. Look guys, our team is young and I am not miserable. The oline definitely showed improvement Saturday. But I cant say the defense showed any
Posted by bulldogger
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2010
2094 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 10:38 am to
Better than Wiscy. As good as Auburn. Their defensive stats suffer because of their offense...like so many past LSU teams.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 10:40 am to
So are you saying if we played AT Vandy on a year in which they were very good and we were not you wouldn't trump the fact that we lost to a good team?

Were we a hard team to beat at home in 1998/1999?
Posted by Grit-Eating Shin
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Posted on 10/14/14 at 10:40 am to
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So those points don't count?
Is that even close to what I said? You're trying to downplay the defense's performance. I'm countering with actual facts.
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My college coach stressed....3 phases of football....offense, defense and special teams.
I think your "college" coach was also my elementary coach.
Posted by Grit-Eating Shin
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Posted on 10/14/14 at 10:41 am to
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Catman88
Keep swinging, bro. I'm sure you'll hit something eventually.
Posted by Mr6daveyobrians
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 10/14/14 at 10:47 am to
They really haven't
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95957 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 10:47 am to
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Keep swinging, bro. I'm sure you'll hit something eventually
He is right thought. Beating Florida gives you warm and fuzzies because there name is Florida. How do you feel about beating a team that was 4-8 last year that will be 6-6 at best this year? Because that is the truth of the situation. Any win though on the road was huge for this team though, because a loss there could have made the wheels come off. I wont downplay the fact the win was big, but to say there was major improvement is nothing short of crazy in my eyes
Posted by Grit-Eating Shin
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Posted on 10/14/14 at 10:52 am to
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Beating Florida gives you warm and fuzzies because there name is Florida. How do you feel about beating a team that was 4-8 last year that will be 6-6 at best this year? Because that is the truth of the situation.
So, what? Everyone is well-aware of how far they have fallen. Part of the reason for that is that the rest of the conference has improved significantly. But they are still a team with a lot of talent, and that had a lot to play for at the time of the game. It was also in their stadium. If you can't see the value in that, given the myriad problems that our team currently has, then I've got nothing for you. Like I said, continue to rationalize your misery. I'll enjoy the win, and won't deny the improvements that I saw Saturday night.
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
10669 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 10:55 am to
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You're trying to downplay the defense's performance. I'm countering with actual facts.
Don't get me wrong, I am very happy with the win....and I think it will be a huge confidence builder. The bottom line is florida's offense is not very good, which made for a great match-up for LSU's defense.

Just don't go thinking our defense is ready to be dominate in conference yet. Which btw is giving 34 a game in sec games.
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
12830 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 10:55 am to
Great, but where is the passing game?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95957 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 10:55 am to
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I'll enjoy the win, and won't deny the improvements that I saw Saturday night.

I already said the win was huge, and the oline showed great improvement in run blocking. But how anyone can say there is defensive improvement when UF gets 300 yards is beyond me.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 10:56 am to
LSU was a team with a lot of talent in 1999. Were we a hard team to beat at home in 1999? Did other teams,not named Houston, pound their chests over beating us in 1999?

The fact is that Florida is not a good team and were an easy pass drop away from beating us. Our OL played better and our LB play was improved. But overall that was a very ugly performance by two college football teams. Lets not sugar coat it.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40203 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 10:59 am to
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We are definitely improving


yes we are

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but I wouldn't say its major improvement.


major improvement comes from small improvements every week

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We need to temper our expectations.


Only expecting to win 3 of the next 5 is tempering expectations.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95957 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 11:01 am to
My expectations are to beat UK, this board will overreact like crazy and say there was even more major improvement, then Brother Wallace is going to come in here and lead Ole Miss to about 450 yards and 30+ points and this board is going to melt its face off.
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
12830 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 11:01 am to
Oh and the defense is still very soft. Cannot set the edge to stop a 3rd down. This is a fact. LSU was lucky to beat an awful Florida team. Beat Ole Myth and Bama and TAMU and I'll give some cred. What are the odds this team finishes worse than last year? >50%.
Posted by Grit-Eating Shin
You're an Idiot
Member since May 2013
8436 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 11:11 am to
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Catman88
Still swinging and flailing about, rationalizing your misery. Keep up the good work, my friend.
Posted by Vandyfan19
Lafayette, Ga
Member since Nov 2012
125 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 11:13 am to
People please calm down! When I said this team has made major improvement I was not implying that we are now able to beat Ole miss and Bama, we were so awful against MSU that it is clear we have improved since that game. Against MSU our linebackers took terrible angles, bit on fakes, and looked really poof fundamentally. This past weekend it was obvious we had made strides in fixing those problems. I did not say that our defense is now on the level of the 2011 defense, or that Jennings has became an elite QB, or that we are now a contender in the West! I said we are getting better and we should be proud of these guys effort and optimistic about the future.
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