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re: The Rant's opinion on not removing hats for the National Anthem

Posted on 11/21/10 at 10:38 am to
Posted by DBG
vermont
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Posted on 11/21/10 at 10:38 am to
yea, what you said
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 11/21/10 at 10:39 am to
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Wearing a cap during a song is disrespectful? I think not.


Well there is the problem, you think it is a song, those of us who have served think it is a prayer, a memory of those "Brave" who did not come home. Do I think it ought to be mandatory, no, but it is SHAMEFUL.
Posted by Brageous
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 11/21/10 at 10:39 am to
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not removing hats for the National Anthem


TFM

but I agree...completely disrespectful...ticks me off too
Posted by WikiTiger
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 11/21/10 at 10:40 am to
This is my favorite rant topic. I've debated it many times in the past but I don't have the time to do it today unfortunately. Hope someone else picks up my slack.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 11/21/10 at 10:40 am to
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Well there is the problem, you think it is a song, those of us who have served think it is a prayer, a memory of those "Brave" who did not come home.


I get what you're saying, and you make a good point, but whether it's a song, or a prayer (which I get), what does a baseball cap have to do with anything?

One cannot pray with a baseball cap on? Can you point me to where that is in the Bible?

I just don't get the leap you are making when you say someone who doesn't take their hat off doesn't respect the men and women who fought for our country... do you not see where you are making a huge leap there from Point A to Point B?
This post was edited on 11/21/10 at 10:42 am
Posted by RBWilliams8
Member since Oct 2009
53417 posts
Posted on 11/21/10 at 10:41 am to
Yeah I was walking back to the seats when they started playing and there was a crowd of women pushing past everyone in the openings while we stoop for the national anthem
Posted by montiger
Member since Aug 2010
355 posts
Posted on 11/21/10 at 10:41 am to
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mandatory to remove them[


I didn't know we lived in Afghanistan. Forced patriotism is what's "un-American", not leaving a hat on.
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 11/21/10 at 10:42 am to
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One cannot pray with a baseball cap on?


If you need me to explain this to you, you understand much less than I gave you credit for.
Posted by RBWilliams8
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 11/21/10 at 10:42 am to
It's not a prayer thing... I thought it was common knowledge to remove your hat out of respect. I've never noticed this problem in alex box. Just sayin
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
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Posted on 11/21/10 at 10:42 am to
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I didn't know we lived in Afghanistan. Forced patriotism is what's "un-American", not leaving a hat on.


Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 11/21/10 at 10:42 am to
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If you need me to explain this to you


I would like to see you try.
Posted by HeadSlash
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 11/21/10 at 10:42 am to
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I exchanged words with one of them during halftime


Why did you wait til halftime?
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
26272 posts
Posted on 11/21/10 at 10:43 am to
No explaining necessary ... it was a yes or no question. I'm under the impression based on what you are saying, that God will not listen to me if I'm wearing a cap while talking to him ... Right?
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 11/21/10 at 10:43 am to
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whether it's a song, or a prayer (which I get), what does a baseball cap have to do with anything?


You're missing the point. You can go to church on Sunday morning wearing cutoff jean shorts and a wife beater if you want, and it's great that you're in God's house, but you should want to show a little bit more respect that that (if it's within your means of course). It's disrespectful to not remove your hat, especially when it is SUCH a simple action to do. It all comes down to respect, IMO.
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 11/21/10 at 10:44 am to
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Forced patriotism is what's "un-American


Forced patriotism isn't patriotism, it is fear.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
71713 posts
Posted on 11/21/10 at 10:44 am to
right, but youre not explaining why it's disrespectful

Posted by ForeLSU
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 11/21/10 at 10:45 am to
quote:

I thought it was common knowledge to remove your hat out of respect.


specifically how is it disrespectful? Wouldn't displaying a matted down, oily comb-over during a song that honors our fallen soldiers be more disrespectful?
Posted by Cs
Member since Aug 2008
10469 posts
Posted on 11/21/10 at 10:46 am to
It's the context in which the anthem is played that impels people to show reverence. Not the actual song.

If you're walking towards the stadium with your friends to go to the game, and you hear someone playing the national anthem on their stereo at a tailgate, the majority of individuals wouldn't think twice about stopping, taking off their hat, and waiting until the song had concluded.

However, the granduer of the anthem being singularly played at a major sporting event commands respect. Not because of the anthem itself, but because of the setting in which it is played.

So no, I don't take off my hat. And I don't place my hand over my chest, either.

Posted by SureMissMyTigahs
FT LAUDERDALE FL
Member since Feb 2006
886 posts
Posted on 11/21/10 at 10:46 am to
You either have class or not!! As the old saying goes "you cant shine shite"!!
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 11/21/10 at 10:46 am to
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So tell me Rantards, is it still mandatory to remove them or am I clinging to some old-school shite my pops taught me?



You know, sometimes our elders have some wisdom we need to hold on to. I realize that we are so advanced and our values so refined these days, but sometimes you know, the older people just get it and we don't.


Hell yeah.... Removing one's hat and showing respect for this country during our national anthem is the very least people can do, and if they don't, then I lose every ounce of respect for them as a mouth breather.


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