the notion that the players have given up on miles

I've got some ocean front property in Shreveport I would like to offer you, I'll give you a great deal on it.

You could see the body language and the look in their eyes.

Notably absent have been reports of any player meetings regarding their play.

I just think they have lost a lot of confidence.

Arkansas and Ole Miss might just be better than LSU right now. Not an excuse. If the team isn't as good as we thought, then that's a reflection on Les.

I don't think they quit. They were down 24-0, and came back and made a game of it early in the 2nd half.

I said this in a post last night, and I'll say it again. "Giving up on Miles" don't know what it means, and won't attempt to define it.

My attempt at discussing the "giving up on the coach" or "the coach losing the players" is this: the players - every single one of them - know that this staff makes more asinine game decisions than.. well any other team ever.

As a player, that must make you trust less in the "system" or the "plan," and has to lead to some doubt. Doubt as to what the play begin called is, doubt as to whether it is the right play, doubt as to the contents between Miles' ears, just doubt in general.

Sure, they probably think of him as a father figure, mentor, all that good stuff, but I have to think you'd be hardpressed to find a player (and I am really looking at the offensive side of the ball although our secondary has been confused all year), who sincerely believes in the ability of the staff.

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My attempt at discussing the "giving up on the coach" or "the coach losing the players" is this: the players - every single one of them - know that this staff makes more asinine game decisions than.. well any other team ever.

As a player, that must make you trust less in the "system" or the "plan," and has to lead to some doubt. Doubt as to what the play begin called is, doubt as to whether it is the right play, doubt as to the contents between Miles' ears, just doubt in general.

Sure, they probably think of him as a father figure, mentor, all that good stuff, but I have to think you'd be hardpressed to find a player (and I am really looking at the offensive side of the ball although our secondary has been confused all year), who sincerely believes in the ability of the staff.

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This is exactly what the OP was addressing. You don't know shite.

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You could see the body language and the look in their eyes.

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Or you could look at their interview and see they are behind Les Miles. Stop making up stuff.

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Thru are the least biased and objective people on the planet.

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well, you sure have confused me. are you saying the players are the least biased people on the planet? right after you state they are deep in bed with him?

anyways, I don't think anybody's taking their advice nor advocating doing so.

Sorry fixed it. Meant most biased and least objective .

The last 3 weeks the scoreboard determined that was a lie. Players looked flat to me and Miles looked like he didn't give a crap anymore as well. Where was the passion and excitement you speak of?