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re: The Jones hatefest

Posted on 2/20/17 at 3:16 pm to
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22772 posts
Posted on 2/20/17 at 3:16 pm to
Because the rest of us have learned to stop making excuses for the head coach and blaming bad luck for everything wrong. Miles taught most everyone that lesson.
Posted by karralum
southeastern conference territory
Member since Apr 2012
1138 posts
Posted on 2/20/17 at 3:16 pm to
His skillset were not matched for a team like LSU. You saw how guys were passing up open shots to pass him the ball. And he passed on open shots to pass it to someone else. There was no cohesion in which was the knock on him for not being clutch.....like Buddy Heild was.
Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
17694 posts
Posted on 2/20/17 at 3:17 pm to
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Most people go back to the NC State game...without realizing how many shots LSU missed let alone free throws. But then theres the play where ncst guard out hustles Martin for a rebound late in that game. But lets blame Jones for that too.


So everything that has happened in the 2 years since is Martin's fault. Jones is off the hook. K.
Posted by TailgateTiger
Bullard, Texas
Member since Oct 2008
2183 posts
Posted on 2/20/17 at 3:17 pm to
The very bottom line: LSU Basketball will suck for a very very very long time.....so fans, get use to the suction.
Posted by karralum
southeastern conference territory
Member since Apr 2012
1138 posts
Posted on 2/20/17 at 3:18 pm to
quote:


You mean the guy who was a senior on the #1 team in the country?


They are not #1 and they don't beat LSU if Heild isn't on that team.
Posted by karralum
southeastern conference territory
Member since Apr 2012
1138 posts
Posted on 2/20/17 at 3:20 pm to
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So everything that has happened in the 2 years since is Martin's fault.


I was making a point since many here tend to reference that NCST game for their reasoning. I simply gave instances during that game in which the coach had no control over the outcomes.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39978 posts
Posted on 2/20/17 at 3:20 pm to
quote:

There was no cohesion in which was the knock on him for not being clutch.....like Buddy Heild was.


What in the actual shite are you blabbering about? Jones is absolute garbage and you are objectively wrong for disagreeing. /thread
Posted by setinways12
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
989 posts
Posted on 2/20/17 at 3:21 pm to
You really just don't get it do you?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47641 posts
Posted on 2/20/17 at 3:21 pm to
Yes and I agree nerves play into it in some cases. A lot of these players have gotten by being the best athlete on the floor their whole lives and missing a few fts never really hurt them in hs. If you pay close attention you'll see guys rocking back and leaning of FTs that's coaching and it's an easy fix. If he'd eliminate these simple mistakes plus all of the other simple fundamental issues we have and still lose then yea blame the players. The problem is that's never happened under Jones.
Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
17694 posts
Posted on 2/20/17 at 3:22 pm to
And what about in the 2 years since?
Posted by karralum
southeastern conference territory
Member since Apr 2012
1138 posts
Posted on 2/20/17 at 3:22 pm to
[link=(Ben Simmons compared to all-time NBA Draft bust Anthony Bennett by Sports ... - Fox Sports)]LINK[/link]

Surely some think Ben will be a bust
Posted by lakelanier
Member since Oct 2014
972 posts
Posted on 2/20/17 at 3:23 pm to
Come on! He runs the program. He recruits, he coaches, he is responsible, and he does an extremely poor job.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42367 posts
Posted on 2/20/17 at 3:24 pm to
It's not a hatefest, it's called poor coaching and unprepared team. I thought Johnny did some great things early on following Trent. He recruited better, he went out and engaged the community.

When you lose the way you did against NC State in the only NCAA appearance it was lack of coaching.

When you tanked it last year with Simmons on the team, declined the NIT, that was bad. I gave him credit for not having Hornsby or Victor, that would have made the difference in making the NCAA tourney.

This year is a glaring lack of talent.
Posted by HighRoller
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2011
4045 posts
Posted on 2/20/17 at 3:24 pm to
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Karralum


Chinhoyang alter?
Posted by karralum
southeastern conference territory
Member since Apr 2012
1138 posts
Posted on 2/20/17 at 3:25 pm to
quote:

What in the actual shite are you blabbering about? Jones is absolute garbage and you are objectively wrong for disagreeing. /thread


Umm my quote that you quoted was about ben simmons. I know you are so anxious to disagree with me, just try to stay on task.
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
29126 posts
Posted on 2/20/17 at 3:25 pm to
the fans don't understand a few things
1. trent johnson left coach jones a giant mess
2. it takes time at a place like LSU to create a culture and install your system
3. as chinhoyang pointed out in his thread most LSU coaches go .500-.600 at best. we can fire coach jones but that won't fix many of the issues the program has.
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22237 posts
Posted on 2/20/17 at 3:26 pm to
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Why blame JJ when your players are missing wide open shots, getting outrebounded, committing dumb turnovers, and missing crucial free throws.
All coachable. Similar to when CLM football was making 27 penalties a game. Hey.... were you Chairman of the Les Miles "10 wins" fan club?
Posted by karralum
southeastern conference territory
Member since Apr 2012
1138 posts
Posted on 2/20/17 at 3:26 pm to
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Chinhoyang alter?


Not sure what you mean.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
10897 posts
Posted on 2/20/17 at 3:26 pm to
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Why blame JJ when your players are missing wide open shots, getting outrebounded, committing dumb turnovers, and missing crucial free throws.


Really, I mean the players quite on Jones, they no longer respect or listen to him. How's that his fault?
Posted by zsav77
Member since Oct 2011
6059 posts
Posted on 2/20/17 at 3:27 pm to
Seems you're a terrible poster on every subject.
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