re: The Experts Are Wrong About Players Generating Revenue

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Try being a full time student and working part time to make ends meet. And then once I graduated, had $40,000.00 of debt from student loans since part time job wasn't enough to pay rent, bills, books, food, and anything else.

So when I graduated, I was faced with a $300.00 monthly payment at the very minimum to cover interest alone.

That's because I didn't get a college apartment paid for, I didn't get my books paid for, I didn't get a personal tutor, and I didn't get a meal plan. All the things an athelte is given. I would have given my left nut to get those things and not have $40,000 of debt after graduating.

And to boot, I'm not making millions to play a sport right now either.

So forgive me if I fail to be sympathetic b/c an athlete has to go to class, workout and practice, and deal with being on national tv every weekend in the fall. And then have cart blanche/celebrity status at any restaurant in town, and once they gradaute - make ten times a year what I make.

ETA: And let's not forget that these athletes are playing because, big money shot here, they want to play. Nobody is holding a gun to their head.

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My (nearly) exact same situation and exact same thoughts. I'm sorry, but I have zero sympathy for collegiate athletes who get that full-ride. When I was at UGA, I knew several players and I know exactly what they got and how, and I will tell you that I would have no hesitation whatsoever trading my situation with theirs. Yeah they work and practice long hours (part of the year) while also having the same responsibilities as other students (with some nice advantages, such as exclusive study facilities and free tutoring).

I think what so many people forget and what I think is indicative or a much larger unfortunate mindset is that these guys are playing big-time college football. I mean, shite, call me naive but if I got to play football for LSU of UGA on scholarship, I would be constantly reminded of how lucky I am.

In other words, it is sad that while some people would say to themselves "I get to play a sport I love on national television. How awesome is that?"

Other people are saying "I have to endure the pressure of being on national television. I'm being exploited."

I don't think that players should be paid extra. A free ride through school is TONS of money as it is. There aren't many athletic departments that make enough money to give extra back to the school like LSU does. I'd like to keep it that way.

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You've got to be kidding me. So far you have littered this thread with horrible analogies, incoherent dribble for logic, and have been called out by myself and 2 or 3 other posters.

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LOL. Because you are too fricking stupid to understand a correlation between 2 examples, does not make it a horrible analogy.....but feel free to point quote whatever you are saying is "incoherent"....right after you point out where I "equate" Asian factory workers and college athletes.....although I'm sure ALOT of thinga are incoherent to you. By the way genius, I think the word you are looking for is DRIVEL.

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By the way genius, I think the word you are looking for is DRIVEL

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My mistake.

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Because you are too fricking stupid

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This is like a morbidly obese person calling a chubby person a lard arse.

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I am against paying players, but you're argument makes no sense to me. To say players don't generate money for the univeristies is dumb. Take away all the players and you have no teams. How can you say players don't at least contribute money to the programs? A game can't be played with no players. Try watching a game with no players on the field.

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That sounds like something my sister in law would say.

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This is like a morbidly obese person calling a chubby person a lard arse.

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.....says the guy who uses the word "dribble" for "drivel". Glad to see that you can laugh at your admission that you are only moderately stupid.

Fans inherit a responsibility too, famous Quotes by Vince Lombardi:

"The achievements of an organization are the results of the combined effort of each individual.”
“People who work together will win, whether it be against complex football defenses, or the problems of modern society.”
“Individual commitment to a group effort – that is what makes a team work, a company work, a society work, a civilization work.”

Your LSU College football program Has grown into a very large and expensive football extravaganza. This country's Major TV networks are deeply invested into college football, just look around you, LSU Tiger Stadium, etc.

Winning is why LSU football program is successful, not the color. The Quote by Vince Lombardi is very true. You invest in men, not things. You should better understand your own value to your LSU football program. Hand & Glove, you can not have one with out the other.

We are all in the same boat.

The football players at LSU and similar programs cannot be compared to the typical students at those schools. They are elite. They are called to the highest level of their future profession.

Elite law, medical, business, and engineering students can all receive substantial income from their prospective professions before they are professionals. This is true regardless of whether they generate revenue for their schools.

Why should these elite, pre-professional football players, who generate money for their schools*, be denied the same privilege?

*Don't kid yourself. Even if you support LSU more than a particular player, you invested a lot less in the program during the Hallman and Dinardo errors [intentional] than you have since Saban turned the program around by bringing in elite talent.

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As said earlier, if the same players played on semi-pro teams, they would have no TV and no fan support. It is the fact that they play for LSU, Texas, Penn State etc. that people watch.

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You seem to hark on this point as it is your main defense. Nobody is denying that if you put those players on a semi pro team they would get no support. But to say better players do not generate more money is extremely naive. Yes, big time programs have die hard fans that will fork up the money to watch any team that is fielded, but there is a LARGE portion of every school's fanbase that will only pay attention if the team is successful.

You have a point, but your reasoning is flawed. There are so many other factors to take into account.

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what do you think would happen if the following occured? Take all the players from LSU and Florida (or any major teams) Put them in semi-pro league uniforms with La. Steam vs Fla. Sun playing

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Over a period of time, you don't think this will gain momentum? Do you think Pro players also shouldn't get paid? Bc even if you chANGE half teh saints, fans will show up anyways