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The Experts Are Wrong About Players Generating Revenue

Posted on 6/2/11 at 3:03 pm
Posted by TigerEd
Luling
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 6/2/11 at 3:03 pm
Many claim that the atheletes should be paid because they are the ones creating revenue for the schools. I have been a season ticket holder and lifelong fan because its LSU playing, not a particular player playing for LSU. If there were no college traditions and these athletes were playing in semi-pro leagues, does anyone think they would have the same following? If so, you are kidding yourself. For me, its the uniform, not the player inside the uniform. College players come and go, but the purple and gold is the constant attraction.
Posted by Cajun Revolution
Member since Apr 2009
44671 posts
Posted on 6/2/11 at 3:05 pm to
So if they sucked you'd still go to every game? bullshite.
Posted by Boh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
12357 posts
Posted on 6/2/11 at 3:05 pm to
you don't think 5-10 years of being a dominating national program brings in more revenue for the university and city?
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
66393 posts
Posted on 6/2/11 at 3:06 pm to
Yeah this is a horrible argument. You may disagree with mine, but at least my argument has some merit.
Posted by Boh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
12357 posts
Posted on 6/2/11 at 3:07 pm to
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Yeah this is a horrible argument. You may disagree with mine, but at least my argument has some merit.

Agreed
Posted by TigerEd
Luling
Member since Dec 2004
218 posts
Posted on 6/2/11 at 3:08 pm to
Well I did sit through the Curly Hallman era. Not bullshite at all. Also,
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 6/2/11 at 3:08 pm to
quote:

For me, its the uniform, not the player inside the uniform. College players come and go, but the purple and gold is the constant attraction.


to an extent you are correct, but I can't buy a jersey with Seth Mannon's number on it at the bookstore
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33936 posts
Posted on 6/2/11 at 3:12 pm to
The prestige of LSU football can literally be traced back to a single player, and that player got paid, in all likelihood.

Posted by jrenton
Houston
Member since Mar 2007
1977 posts
Posted on 6/2/11 at 3:13 pm to
quote:

Well I did sit through the Curly Hallman era. Not bullshite at all. Also,



You are the exception, not the rule
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
50336 posts
Posted on 6/2/11 at 3:14 pm to
Its an illusion. Lots of money comes in from donations not revenue.
Posted by TigerEd
Luling
Member since Dec 2004
218 posts
Posted on 6/2/11 at 3:14 pm to
If this were a horrible argument, what do you think would happen if the following occured? Take all the players from LSU and Florida (or any major teams) Put them in semi-pro league uniforms with La. Steam vs Fla. Sun playing on a Saturday afternoon. How many people do you think would be in attendance? Maybe a couple of thousand? Certainly not enough to maintain a league. That is the point I am making.
Posted by xXLSUXx
New Orleans, LA
Member since Oct 2010
10305 posts
Posted on 6/2/11 at 3:16 pm to
Thank you.


The idea that players should get more money and benefits because "they" generate revenue is asinine.

Maybe someone has a good reason the players should be paid, but I just don't see it.
Posted by Newbomb Turk
perfectanschlagen
Member since May 2008
9961 posts
Posted on 6/2/11 at 3:23 pm to
And, when we didn't have "good" players suiting up in that Tiger uniform back in the '90's, season ticket sales dropped below 30,000 and LSU was one of the worst traveling teams in the country.
Posted by The_Pistol
Member since Dec 2003
2519 posts
Posted on 6/2/11 at 3:23 pm to
No doubt that brand loyalty amongst college sports fans is huge, but there is no way that the NCAA could sell it's rights to March Madness for $771 Million if every team is full of Voogd.

Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
17865 posts
Posted on 6/2/11 at 3:25 pm to
quote:

You are the exception, not the rule
really? i think there are a buttload of exceptions out there then, including me.

LSU football was tremendously popular before Saban showed up, fwiw.

btw, if we started paying athletes, and then go into another Archer-Hallman-like depression on the football, should we then *stop* paying the athletes?

let's be consistent here.
Posted by vegas-tiger
NV desert
Member since Dec 2003
2061 posts
Posted on 6/2/11 at 3:25 pm to
So USCe sells out every game and goes 0-11.

Name the players that generated this revenue.
Posted by DocBugbear
Arlington, Texas
Member since Mar 2008
7956 posts
Posted on 6/2/11 at 3:29 pm to
quote:

If this were a horrible argument, what do you think would happen if the following occured? Take all the players from LSU and Florida (or any major teams) Put them in semi-pro league uniforms with La. Steam vs Fla. Sun playing on a Saturday afternoon. How many people do you think would be in attendance? Maybe a couple of thousand? Certainly not enough to maintain a league. That is the point I am making.


And what would happen to the revenue generated by LSU and UF? They would plummet. It would not go to zero, but it certainly wouldn't be where it was before the players left. Certainly not all of the revenue can attributed to the players, but it's hard to deny that a significant portion comes from the players.
Posted by wilfont
Gulfport, MS on a Jet Ski
Member since Apr 2007
14860 posts
Posted on 6/2/11 at 3:33 pm to
Its true that fans don't attend college football games to watch a particular player but they do attend because the quality of play is at a level where they can enjoy the experience.

I agree with your post to a point but it is the players that make the game what it is. That said, I don't support paying college athletes.
This post was edited on 6/2/11 at 3:34 pm
Posted by EricB
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
1680 posts
Posted on 6/2/11 at 3:35 pm to
The point is that millions of dollars are made every year from a non-professional sport. The organizations that make all of this money, the schools, conferences and bowls... Nike, Reebok, Under Armour, make hundreds of millions from college atheletics... ESPN makes millions... not from airing TCU, but Andy Dalton, not OSU, but TP, not LSU, but PP7... etc. Stars are what generate revenue, period. In every other level of sports, the players are compensated for their efforts... in the NCAA, they work for free. If you're an in-state football player at LSU, what do you get from a full ride that TOPS doesn't already provide most other students? Some students at this university recieve food stamps, pell grants, tuition discounts and TOPS. Atheletes spend more time practicing for their sports than normal students do working part time jobs.

At the end of the day, atheletic scholarships hardly provide anything that normal students don't already get.
This post was edited on 6/2/11 at 3:37 pm
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 6/2/11 at 3:36 pm to
Do people go to ULL games? Are you saying only the good programs should pay their players?

How does that work? The same people making the claim about players generating revenue also want the little guys making bread.
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