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re: Tell me why we shouldn't just KEEP MILES and get a BETTER OC?

Posted on 11/26/15 at 1:26 pm to
Posted by Katy Tiger
Houston area
Member since Sep 2004
8032 posts
Posted on 11/26/15 at 1:26 pm to
Wasn't it Jimbo who said that Les changed 2 out of every 3 plays?
Posted by El Magnifico
La casa de tu mamá
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 11/26/15 at 1:39 pm to
Because it doesn't matter who the frick is the OC, Miles is still meddlingi n the offense
Posted by TigerFan244
Member since Jan 2012
2593 posts
Posted on 11/26/15 at 1:43 pm to
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It's funny the OP has yet to respond in this thread. Maybe it's a flame troll on his part


Maybe it's because the OP has a life and family on thanksgiving instead of being glued to TD all day.

For all the people who've responded with "we've had 5 OCs with the same result" didn't the offense look similar with Saban and Jimbo at the helm? The only difference is that as Saban got older, he learned he had to let go and let people like Mcelwain and Kiffin run the offense. If miles gets a quality OC and stays the frick out of it, we should be fine. Cam Cameron needs an accurate pro style passer to make his offense work. He's not going to be able to do it with dual threats.
This post was edited on 11/26/15 at 2:31 pm
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
79135 posts
Posted on 11/26/15 at 1:50 pm to
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Cam Cameron needs an accurate pro style passer to make his offense work. He's not going to be able to do it with dual threats.

so why hasn't Miles been insistent on Cam getting his QB?

He's still trying to turn a spread QB in Harris into a pro style passer.
This post was edited on 11/26/15 at 1:51 pm
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
18962 posts
Posted on 11/26/15 at 1:51 pm to
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The only difference is that as Saban got older, he learned he had to let go and let people like Mcelwain and Kiffin run the offense. If miles gets a quality OC and stays the trick out of it, we should be fine.


This is spot on but the stubborn old coot would never give way. He wants his fingerprints on the offense for some odd reason.

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Cam Cameron needs an accurate pro style passer to make his offense work. He's not going to be able to do it with dual threats.


This is bullshite though.

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"We want a pocket-mobile guy, but not a run-first guy. We want someone who's tough, smart and can throw the ball like Zach Mettenberger, someone with a strong arm who's innately accurate."


LINK

Posted by someoldhussy
Candyland
Member since Jun 2007
2439 posts
Posted on 11/26/15 at 1:53 pm to
quote:

didn't the offense look similar with Saban and Jimbo at the helm?


No
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
18962 posts
Posted on 11/26/15 at 1:57 pm to
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He's still trying to turn a spread QB in Harris into a pro style passer.


bullshite
Posted by XBOXLSUFAN1969
Vinton, La
Member since Nov 2015
124 posts
Posted on 11/26/15 at 2:02 pm to
Miles played for Bo Schembechler at MICHIGAN in the 70's. It was a run offense with a pass or two.
Go watch old games the look at LSU...HMMMMM SIMILAR SCHEME.

The OC calls down plays but Miles give yay or nay. Plus idiot recruits dual threat QBs for pro style offense. Just put LF and Guice as QB and back. Hell LF could throw a 10 yard pass and actually not bounce it to receiver
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
18962 posts
Posted on 11/26/15 at 2:07 pm to
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The OC calls down plays but Miles give yay or nay.


Miles has way more input on play calling than just yay or nay.

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Plus idiot recruits dual threat QBs for pro style offense.


Posted by Wind Rivers Tiger
Wyoming
Member since Sep 2011
1033 posts
Posted on 11/26/15 at 2:17 pm to
He's proven he won't "stay the trick out of it", and as head coach no one can make him stay out of it. That's what the "head" in head coach means.
Posted by scubafeet
baton rouge, la
Member since Feb 2004
14285 posts
Posted on 11/26/15 at 2:33 pm to
Anyone crying for a new OC should never speak football again! Read up on Les Miles complete history as HC! He almost got Gundy fired as OC in OSU for being too conservative!!! LES MILES IS THE OC ON EVERY TEAM HE COACHES!!!!! he refuses to relinquish control of that, and this is why he will be fired
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