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Talent evaluation by Coaching Staff

Posted on 9/12/10 at 2:16 pm
Posted by dietcoke7
LA
Member since Aug 2007
1033 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 2:16 pm
J Lee, for whatever reason, will apparently not get a shot at QB position unless JJ goes down with injury.

Look at Cutrera. Made the 53 man roster with Jaguars and only started 6 games in four years at LSU.

Keiland. Staff decided he was not the number one back. Made roster with Redskins.

This staff decides a player is either a starter or not. Miles says JJ will get better, an admission that after starts in three different seasons he is lacking but Lee just sits.

Of course staff wants to win but I cant figure out why they pigeon hole a player and refuse to see that starters need to be replaced or that back ups have gotten better.
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26615 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 2:20 pm to
I have never understood why JJ is treated with kid gloves. Good lord, starting pitchers get pulled in baseball when they get shelled. JJ had a bad night. Doesn't mean he isn't the starter any more. It just means if he's pulled that we need to give Lee a chance to see if he can do any better.

Why won't Les do that?
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 2:21 pm to
1. Miles has already said they're going to be looking harder at Lee
2. Cutrera was playing behind Ali Highsmith, Perry Riley, Harry Coleman, etc. These players are also on NFL rosters.
3. No one knows wtf with Keilland.

so... your point is?
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
31886 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 2:24 pm to
JJ comes out next week like that, you better bet your arse JL will see some snaps.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56205 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 2:27 pm to
quote:

Good lord, starting pitchers get pulled in baseball when they get shelled. JJ had a bad night. Doesn't mean he isn't the starter any more


I have a feeling that if JJ is pulled he is DONE.

I dont think he has the mental toughness to handle it.

I think that Miles has determined this, and will not pull him until he is certain he will never need him to be productive.
Posted by 1p56
Thats da admin who banned my avatar
Member since Aug 2010
1751 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 2:27 pm to
quote:

I have never understood why JJ is treated with kid gloves.


Is JJ Muslim?
Posted by Tiger in Texas
Houston, Texas
Member since Sep 2004
20855 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 2:32 pm to
quote:

Miles has already said they're going to be looking harder at Lee


You should know not to take any comments from Les seriously...
Posted by Tiger in Texas
Houston, Texas
Member since Sep 2004
20855 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 2:34 pm to
quote:

Is JJ Muslim?


That has to be it!!!
Posted by jimbeaux82
Natchitoches, La
Member since Oct 2008
1337 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 2:37 pm to
I agree with Tigerfoot, Les realizes how fragile JJ~s confidence and mentality is and knows if he benches him it will have a devestating effect. Oh well, he has had multiple chances like no one else I have ever seen. It is time now for him to be replaced. This team does have a chance to win the SEC IF we can find a QB solution, and right now JL is the best chance for that.

Bottom line - it is time that JL gets his shot. He needs to be named starter at the beginning of the week so he has time to mentally prepare for the start and have his best chance to succeed.
Posted by MastrShake
SoCal
Member since Nov 2008
7281 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 2:45 pm to
quote:

Talent evaluation by Coaching Staff
1. Miles has already said they're going to be looking harder at Lee
2. Cutrera was playing behind Ali Highsmith, Perry Riley, Harry Coleman, etc. These players are also on NFL rosters.
3. No one knows wtf with Keilland.


its the Redskins. they suck. and KW beat out Willie Parker, who hasnt done anything since he broke his leg in 2007, and Ryan Torian, who I dont think even exists.

everybody liked Keiland, I thought he should have played more too, but Scott was pretty damn good, and just because KW made a shitty teams roster hardly means LSU chose the wrong starter.
Posted by Larry Hollins
Member since Jul 2009
1545 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 2:52 pm to
talent evaluation is not the problem but the effective use of the talent is a problem. kw should have played more even if he never started a game. look at the year nevis has had so far and look at the dt that beat him out the last 2 years.
Posted by MastrShake
SoCal
Member since Nov 2008
7281 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 2:58 pm to
Randall Gay started 4 games his senior year in 2003. in 2004 he was the staring corner for the Patriots in the superbowl.

who was our coach in 2003?
Posted by cepheid
kenner, la
Member since Feb 2007
1638 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 3:16 pm to
quote:

starting pitchers get pulled in baseball when they get shelled. JJ had a bad night. Doesn't mean he isn't the starter any more. It just means if he's pulled that we need to give Lee a chance to see if he can do any better.


maybe he didn't want to put Lee in untill late in the game because the game was still on the line and the outcome was uncertain untill that point.
Posted by mule74
Watersound Beach
Member since Nov 2004
11288 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 3:17 pm to
quote:

Look at Cutrera. Made the 53 man roster with Jaguars and only started 6 games in four years at LSU.


He would have started a lot more if not for injury.
Posted by Larry Hollins
Member since Jul 2009
1545 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 3:22 pm to
on the defensive side, it seems we are giving everyone a chance to play and get evaluated properly. thats the most important thing because defense wins championships. just ask oklahoma with the record setting offense of 2 years ago.

on offense, with ridley and shep, we have the second best rb tandem in sec. great wr. but ol is LACKING TALENT NOT LACKING TALENT EVALUATION from a sec championship team perspective.
Posted by byubengalboy
Cypress, tx.
Member since Nov 2008
3719 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 3:23 pm to
quote:

This staff decides a player is either a starter or not.


bullshite...the staff evaluates the players on a weekly basis. if you do not show superiority in practice or when you get your touches you will remain a backup.

ps...Kieland was a backup not because of Miles...but because of Charles Scott.
Posted by Larry Hollins
Member since Jul 2009
1545 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 3:32 pm to
once again, the question is not whether kw should have started but whether he should have played and contributed. if you can play for an nfl team why can't you play for lsu with the #112 offense in the nation.

it just doesn't make sense.
Posted by MastrShake
SoCal
Member since Nov 2008
7281 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 3:44 pm to
quote:

once again, the question is not whether kw should have started but whether he should have played and contributed. if you can play for an nfl team why can't you play for lsu with the #112 offense in the nation.

it just doesn't make sense.



seriously, i like keiland, i think he should have played more, but in 4 preseason games he had 19 carries for 67 yards. he went 11 for 51, 2 for 6, 4 for 11 and 2 for minus 1. people need to stop acting as if hes the league MVP all of a sudden.

Scott was very good. Miles could have gone with either one and done well. Choosing Scott was not a mistake.


Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56205 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 3:48 pm to
quote:

look at the year nevis has had so far and look at the dt that beat him out the last 2 years.


Why do folks say shite like this, Nevis has had PLENTY of snaps since arriving at LSU.

That would be like saying that Murphy was used more than Ridley last night, because he was on the field for the first play.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 3:49 pm to
quote:

This staff decides a player is either a starter or not. Miles says JJ will get better, an admission that after starts in three different seasons he is lacking but Lee just sits.

Of course staff wants to win but I cant figure out why they pigeon hole a player and refuse to see that starters need to be replaced or that back ups have gotten better.


The inability to revisit a decision in light of additional evidence is a sign of mental weakness. I'm not saying that our coaches have this characteristic, but just that this characteristic is a sign of less than stellar intelligence.
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