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Posted on 10/25/10 at 1:20 pm to TenTex
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And no, firing the coaches is not the answer. The players have everything at their disposal for growing in our system. We just have 2 guys that can't get it done at the next level
So if Saban/Brown/Meyer went 3 years without a decent QB, you'd lay that all on the players? Give me a break.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 1:25 pm to TenTex
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And no, firing the coaches is not the answer. The players have everything at their disposal for growing in our system. We just have 2 guys that can't get it done at the next level. Happens all the time unfortunately.
The QB's DO NOT have adequate coaching to grow in the Miles/Crowton "Civil War" offensive system.
We simply DON'T KNOW if JL can take this team to the next level because he hasn't been given the chance to run the team in 2010 for an entire game from start to finish over multiple S.E.C. games. (2008 Freshman year and La.Tech in 2009 don't count) He needs multiple games as the full time QB before a final verdict is rendered.
Wanna keep Milesy, then it's ABSOLUTELY IMPERATIVE to hire an OC with the same philosphy that wants to run the same stuff he does. They HAVE to be on the same page. LM and GC AREN'T. This needs to happen before before things will even begin to get better offensively.
An experienced veteran OL coach, a dedicated QB coach and a triple patty Mettenberger fully dressed with all the toppings would also help the offensive starvation.........
Posted on 10/25/10 at 1:31 pm to TenTex
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And no, firing the coaches is not the answer. The players have everything at their disposal for growing in our system. We just have 2 guys that can't get it done at the next level. Happens all the time unfortunately.
Who is responsible for putting us in a position of having two quarterbacks who "can't get it done"? Who recruits? Who assesses talent? Who instructs and develops?
The coaches. That's who.
If we are in a hopeless QB quandary, they are clearly to blame.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 1:31 pm to TenTex
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We've had some bad luck with getting and keeping good QB's
you could say made our own luck in not developing, identifying, or retaining QB talent.
the situation is what it is.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 1:32 pm to The312
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Who is responsible for putting us in a position of having two quarterbacks who "can't get it done"? Who recruits? Who assesses talent? Who instructs and develops?
The coaches. That's who.
If we are in a hopeless QB quandary, they are clearly to blame.
ding ding .......We have a winner
Posted on 10/25/10 at 1:37 pm to MoreOrLes
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Lee could benefit from Offensive Line play that gives him some time back there.
+1 he had better protection against Florida and he did well, for some reason our OL did not do a good enough job on Saturday, if they would have then i think Jl would have had time to make his throws. I still think that with JL in the game it gives LSU a better chance to win the game.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 1:40 pm to athletemed
How can someone even say Shep is a QB as he has never even attempted a pass in a college game. I watched the HS underarmor game and he didn't look like some great QB there either. The word on the street is he didn't have the mind to play QB and that is why he got switched.
Miles was very unlucky to end up with having to kick off RP and Z. Lee getting paid enormously over slot. We can all say he should have been better, but sometimes teams struggle to find a decent QB.
Our QBs would also look a lot better if the other offensive players would execute and Crowton had better playcalling. We have many other issues other than just QB.
I was more disappointed in the interior OL and WRs on Saturday to be honest.
Miles was very unlucky to end up with having to kick off RP and Z. Lee getting paid enormously over slot. We can all say he should have been better, but sometimes teams struggle to find a decent QB.
Our QBs would also look a lot better if the other offensive players would execute and Crowton had better playcalling. We have many other issues other than just QB.
I was more disappointed in the interior OL and WRs on Saturday to be honest.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 2:40 pm to TigerBandAlumnus82
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Miles/Crowton "Civil War" offensive system
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hire an OC with the same philosphy that wants to run the same stuff he does
quote:there are probably zero fans who know what is going on between miles and crowton, much less that they aren't on the same page.
They HAVE to be on the same page. LM and GC AREN'T
Posted on 10/25/10 at 2:48 pm to PinevilleTiger
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So why the hell rotate them on series instead of downs. In obvious passing situations why not bring in Lee even if its JJ's "series"?
:kige: It's not like we are unpredictable. Might as well put the right personnel in on any given play, like switching running backs. Switching them each series isn't letting them get into a rhythm anyway.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 2:55 pm to tlary
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Just ask Florida what they think about their QB situation. No, No, don't do that, the Gator Fans are in a major depression having to watch Cam Newton every Saturday.
My neighbors in Tampa are MAJOR UF alumni/Gator Boosters. They said they were happy to see Cam Newton go because they had Tebow. Now they call Newton a "traitor". lol UF can't seem to look beyond the current season. LSU is smart going after Mettenberger for 2011. JJ and J. Lee need to enjoy their playing time the rest of this year. After next spring they'll be carrying clipboards and wearing headsets during the games.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 3:00 pm to TenTex
If rather have a qb that can throw ttan one that can run sorta reason people recruit RBS
Posted on 10/25/10 at 3:05 pm to Loupe52
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The Tigers' offense runs more fluidly with Jordan Jefferson because of his threat to run
Really?
Yes, really. It's very obvious to an impartial observer.
This just in: Les Miles knows more football than those on the RANT.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 3:06 pm to Loupe52
I agree...no solution, this year.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 3:12 pm to bfniii
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there are probably zero fans who know what is going on between miles and crowton,
They need to settle it in a thunderdome and give this offense an identity.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 3:22 pm to TenTex
You need to get your head out of Mile's lap.
Miles is barely coherent, yet he is playing 2 quarterbacks for the entire year because he knows when we play Auburn the QB with the overwhelmingly better stats isn't going to be successful because of our poor O-line.
Miles has been starting Jefferson all year because he will need him when we play Auburn. Yeah, OK.
Instead of shoring up our O-line and developing a strategy to compete with Auburn, he rotates QB's all year and that is his "genius."
Instead of trying to defend the indefensible, just admit the guy (Miles) ain't that bright and move on. The most logical and easiest answer is usually the correct one.
Miles is barely coherent, yet he is playing 2 quarterbacks for the entire year because he knows when we play Auburn the QB with the overwhelmingly better stats isn't going to be successful because of our poor O-line.
Miles has been starting Jefferson all year because he will need him when we play Auburn. Yeah, OK.
Instead of shoring up our O-line and developing a strategy to compete with Auburn, he rotates QB's all year and that is his "genius."
Instead of trying to defend the indefensible, just admit the guy (Miles) ain't that bright and move on. The most logical and easiest answer is usually the correct one.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 3:27 pm to TenTex
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The Tigers' offense runs more fluidly with Jordan Jefferson because of his threat to run
UBERFAIL
Posted on 10/25/10 at 3:31 pm to TenTex
Tiger fans should be in major depression for letting Darron Thomas go to Oregon and putting up big numbers. A player that we had in our palms and then he got wind of "athlete" and left. One of the many Miles frick ups at LSU when it comes to OL/QB recruiting.
This post was edited on 10/25/10 at 3:32 pm
Posted on 10/25/10 at 3:32 pm to tlary
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1. Loss of Mullens, Gonzalez and Tebow's system
Gonzalez? the guy brought Mullen and Meyer their coffee every morning...
Posted on 10/25/10 at 3:34 pm to TenTex
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Stewart Mandel's Observation of LSU's QB situation
nails it
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