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re: So When does LSU Play a Complete Game? (Passing Game Stats Inside)
Posted on 10/4/15 at 12:28 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Posted on 10/4/15 at 12:28 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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The players and coaches have no control over making the playoff/bcs title game. The only title that coaches and players have control over is the sec west and sec title. Anything else is beyond their control.
well we only hit that goal once since 2001 without making the title game and since we didn't win the SEC in 2005 it's an irrelevant point
LSU has never won the SEC and been denied a shot at the natty under miles, and it's only happened once in the BCS era (2001, when we had 3 losses)
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Posted on 10/4/15 at 12:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
That's not realistic. you could argue 2011 was one of the best teams and seasons in all of college football.
Regardless, it's not being a negatiger to preach about a balanced offense. Yes, we are undefeated and everyone is happy about that, but our schedule does not allow for only LF7 running going forward.
Regardless, it's not being a negatiger to preach about a balanced offense. Yes, we are undefeated and everyone is happy about that, but our schedule does not allow for only LF7 running going forward.
Posted on 10/4/15 at 12:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
SFP = broken record dating all the way back to rant's beginning.
Blah blah blah, complain about LSU.
Good job being consistent. Shame that youre still a little girl.
Blah blah blah, complain about LSU.
Good job being consistent. Shame that youre still a little girl.
Posted on 10/4/15 at 12:30 pm to VincentVega
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The total abandonment of the passing game last night is, in my opinion, a bad indicator of our ability to do this when we must.
THIS!!!!
We had to totally shut down the passing game against Eastern Michigan!!!!!!
Posted on 10/4/15 at 12:30 pm to SlowFlowPro
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we can increase our total play
We are a ball controlled running team. Don't you think of our wrs were catching the ball and the qb was making good throws we would be calling more passing plays? It's obvious that are game plan was to throw the ball last night and our players couldn't execute so Miles goes to our teams strengths.
The problem Miles faces is that he isn't gonna lose a game because he didn't play to his team's strength and yet his team's strentgh is a dimension that can be shut down without an average passing dimension.
Posted on 10/4/15 at 12:30 pm to SlowFlowPro
I agree with you. If the receivers and QB can't have a high level of success against mediocre competition it is ridiculous to believe it will occur versus legitimate defenses. Look at what happened to UGA yesterday after Bama made Lambert look like the cast off he is, and other than one big play, made Chubb and Michel look pedestrian. UT vs UF last week, if Dobbs wasn't an exceptional athlete and quality QB, UT would have done nothing last week vs UF, look at what he did with his legs in that game. If big plays are generated by LSU on the field while only throwing 15-20x per game it would be substantially different, but the drops alone turn that into a low probability of happening. The special teams look atrocious compared to last year, particularly the kick and kick coverage, plus the continuing stream of penalties, and last night the D played poorly overall. LSU has been fortunate how the schedule has played out to this point,especially vs a weak AU team and average MSU, they are going to have to greatly improve to have success against much of the remaining schedule.
Posted on 10/4/15 at 12:31 pm to P bean
i am a broken record, but our team results are as well
perhaps this is finally that outlier year
perhaps this is finally that outlier year
Posted on 10/4/15 at 12:31 pm to VincentVega
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The concern isn't how many yards or how often we pass, it is balance. We need balance so that defenses respect the pass so that the entire playbook can be employed. The total abandonment of the passing game last night is, in my opinion, a bad indicator of our ability to do this when we must.
It's just knowing UF, Alabama, Ole Miss, A&M aren't going to allow LF to run wild. I think the coaching staff showed last night that they totally gave up on passing, which doesn't bode well going forward.
I think South Carolina will be a good buffer game before Florida.
Posted on 10/4/15 at 12:32 pm to dsides
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but our schedule does not allow for only LF7 running going forward.
What yes it does. The only team that will shut down our run game is Bama. We ran it down the throats of UF and Ole Miss last year. Neither of those teams have come close to facing an oline as big and athletic as ours. We have the best run blocking oline in cfb.
Posted on 10/4/15 at 12:33 pm to SlowFlowPro
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what if that passing extends drives to get our RBs more carries? that's what i want to happen
As it is, we're averaging 46 carries per game. If we were to attempt 36 passes (which I understand is a hyperbole), and an increased third down conversion % also allowed for more carries for our backs, you're looking at 90-100 plays per game. That is a number typical of the HUNH teams.
Not sure I like what that would mean for a questionable defensive unit.
Posted on 10/4/15 at 12:33 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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. We ran it down the throats of UF and Ole Miss last year.
Both are much improved this year.
Posted on 10/4/15 at 12:33 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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It's just knowing UF, Alabama, Ole Miss, A&M aren't going to allow LF to run w
The thing is, he can still "run wild" for 140-150 yards and 2 scores.
But if that's all LSU can do, we won't win those games.
Posted on 10/4/15 at 12:33 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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It's just knowing UF, Alabama, Ole Miss, A&M aren't going to allow LF to run wild. I
You mean like LF did last year when all 4 of these teams knew we didn't have a passing game last year?
Posted on 10/4/15 at 12:33 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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It's obvious that are game plan was to throw the ball last night and our players couldn't execute so Miles goes to our teams strengths.
i stated as much
the fact that we had to abandon teh pass against EMU is scary. that's the whole point. add in our passing difficulties the other 3 games and it is more of a trend that a single event. that's the whole point
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The problem Miles faces is that he isn't gonna lose a game because he didn't play to his team's strength
i mean that's fine, and i'm not saying don't feed fournette, but when you're saying this about Eastern Michigan and Syracuse, it becomes very, very scary looking forward (which is the big picture that i'm looking at)
Posted on 10/4/15 at 12:36 pm to chilge1
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If we were to attempt 36 passes
let me just stop this. i said doubled output, not doubled attempts. HUGE difference
20-ish attempts would be reasonable in most games. knowing we could rely on 25-30 if we had to would be comforting
Posted on 10/4/15 at 12:37 pm to LACountyTiger
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The thing is, he can still "run wild" for 140-150 yards and 2 scores.
But if that's all LSU can do, we won't win those games.
exactly
like i've said, they likely won't STOP us but if they can slow us down, we may be in trouble
Posted on 10/4/15 at 12:37 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Both are much improved this year.
Neither have improved their run defense to anywhere near the degree that LSU has improved its rushing offense. They may very well beat us in that facet and force us to pass, but I favor us in the running game until proven otherwise.
Posted on 10/4/15 at 12:39 pm to SlowFlowPro
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mean that's fine, and i'm not saying don't feed fournette, but when you're saying this about Eastern Michigan and Syracuse, it becomes very, very scary looking forward (which is the big picture that i'm looking at)
The only defense we won't be able to against with a stacked box is Bama. Our run blocking was worse last year and our pass game was non existent last year.
This is the same Florida team last almost lost to East Carolina and Kentucky(east Car scored 24 in Gainesville and Kentucky held them to 14 points).
The same ole miss that raked out a win against Vandy team that barely beat Middle Tenn.
My point is that Ole Miss and UF have shown to struggle far more than LSU. Our only close game was in Miss st and it was our 1st game of the year.
Posted on 10/4/15 at 12:41 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Both are much improved this yea
No they arent.
UF struggled against East Carolina and Kentucky
Ole Miss struggled against a shite Vandy.
LSU is more improved from last year than either of those teams.
Posted on 10/4/15 at 12:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
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LSU has never won the SEC and been denied a shot at the natty under miles,
And? The coaches and players still have no control over making the game. You can measure the success of a season on whether or not you get VOTED into a game.
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