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re: So when do we actually start giving O some credit?

Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:10 pm to
Posted by lsu1919
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:10 pm to
This thread again?

Give him credit after he wins the west or gets to the playoff (since a team obviously can get to the playoff without winning the west).

Those are the goals. His record can be 100-15 or something but if he never wins the west or gets to the playoff he’s done nothing.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
48018 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:27 pm to
I’m surely not excusing the loss I’m saying that the negatives are blown way out of proportion and the positives are ignored or devalued. They’re basically the LSU fan version of ANTIFA.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39986 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:31 pm to
That comparison doesn't even make sense

Also, that's the nature of being a top major program. A win over Troy isn't even a blip on the screen. A loss can tank a season. That's just the nature of it. We're in the SEC and shouldn't lose to even the best Sun Belt teams
This post was edited on 12/3/17 at 6:33 pm
Posted by Blanky6715
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:32 pm to
Troy
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
48018 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:32 pm to
The fact that people have to ask if he’ll ever be given credit for anything says everything about that potion of the fansbase. We’ve improved since he got here that’s not debateable that’s a fact. Of course he needs hardware that’s the goal but look at our last 3 coaches and their beginnings.
Saban - inherited a 3-8 team went 8-4
Miles - inherited a top 5/10 program went 11-2
Ogeron - inherited a team consistently in the teens and is 9-3
So he’s right in the middle exactly where anyone rational would expect for his first year.
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:33 pm to
quote:

We’ve improved since he got here that’s not debateable that’s a fact
lol
Posted by Hair of the Dog
Alexandria
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:33 pm to
If he beats Bama, I'm sold.

No more 7su, L8U shiit on here.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39986 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:33 pm to
quote:

We’ve improved since he got here that’s not debateable that’s a fact.

I'm gonna need you to prove this fact
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
48018 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:35 pm to
We aren’t a top tier program right now. We’ve been ranked in the teens 4 of the last 5 years that’s Miles not O we haven’t won a division crown in 8 years. That’s not a top tier program. You guys continue to use our status from 10 years ago to describe where we’ve been for the last half decade and it’s completely false.
This post was edited on 12/3/17 at 6:38 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
48018 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:36 pm to
You want proof? Miles last 29 games he was 19-10 65% Ogeron is 15-5 since taking over that’s 75% winning pct that’s improvement.
This post was edited on 12/3/17 at 6:37 pm
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39986 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:37 pm to
In terms of fan base, resources, talent pool, etc we are a top tier program. The results haven't been there due to lackluster coaching. My point which you deflect from is that a program of our caliber will always have more to lose than to gain from playing a team like Troy.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27911 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:37 pm to
quote:

we haven’t won a division crown in 8 years

Are you sure about this?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
48018 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:38 pm to
Wrong money and resources doesn’t equal top tier program results do. All money and resources represent is potential.
This post was edited on 12/3/17 at 6:39 pm
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39986 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:39 pm to
Aaaand you're still ignoring my point and focusing on tangential shite. Of course
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
48018 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:40 pm to
You’re right 7 years, doesn’t change the point.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
48018 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:41 pm to
I addressed your point. You wanna talk reality or continue acting like political media.?
Posted by EXPLAYER
Member since Jul 2017
10786 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:42 pm to
Can only beat who is on schedule. Also three freshman linemen early in year because of injuries. As freshmen linemen grew we got better. If you cannot agree to that well you just want to bitch. Oh Yeah Geaux Tigers!
This post was edited on 12/3/17 at 6:43 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
48018 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:43 pm to
Accusing someone of doing exactly what you’re doing is childish and a pointless waste of time.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39986 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:43 pm to
frick you are helplessly simple minded. You did not address my point. A program of our caliber and/or with our potential should be expected to beat Troy. Losing to them is a way bigger deal than beating them.
Posted by EXPLAYER
Member since Jul 2017
10786 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:45 pm to
Madking you are correct. Look at A&M resources out the arse. My personal opinion (FWIW) they won't win crap. It is the culture.
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