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re: So O threw another group of players under the bus

Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:05 pm to
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158754 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:05 pm to
an intelligent person can get around that, Uncle Ed is not and wants to please everyone
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67027 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:06 pm to
quote:

They are tired because we have no depth...not because they are not trying.....we used to rotate guys in and out...we no longer have that luxury


Yes and no. Depth or no depth, there is no excuse for the defense to have their hands on their hips after the first play from scrimmage in the second half. That shows mental exhaustion. I saw that same look from the first play on 1/9. Depth is NOT the only issue on this team. Execution and motor is bigly lacking.
Posted by RightHook
Member since Dec 2013
5560 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:09 pm to
Wow

Dude needs to resign if he has one shred of decency
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37250 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:10 pm to
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Ok so you're mad about how he said what he said, not what he said


Gotcha




It's not just about how. One is telling the truth in generalities, the other is blaming someone else, and not taking any responsibility.

It IS O's fault that the kicking game stinks, not JUST the players. If you want to champion the blunt truth from O, it should be this:

"We just don't have a field goal kicker. That's my fault. Just don't have one on our roster. I also fired the ST coordinator and have not taught the fundamentals to the Kicking Team. That's on me as well Going to recruit some kickers, and I'll make sure we train them up. It's my responsibility to fix it."

He basically admitted that he can have no effect on the kicking game this year, and that recruiting is the only option. Great!
Posted by chadr07
Pineville, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
7875 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:10 pm to
Steve Spurrior for one. He always told it like it was. No sugar coating with Steve.
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35254 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:10 pm to
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if he has one shred of decency
He doesn't.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43805 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:11 pm to
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Ok so you're mad about how he said what he said, not what he said


Context and word choice matter in everything you ever have, and ever will say. Is this somehow news to you?
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35254 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:12 pm to
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teve Spurrior for one. He always told it like it was. No sugar coating with Steve.
Steve had actually EARNED the right to say whatever he wants.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72545 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:12 pm to
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Dude needs to resign if he has one shred of decency




he won't. he is trying to buy more time by throwing players under the bus. he is feeling the heat.
Posted by 7nette
Member since Nov 2015
4909 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:12 pm to
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Well he isn't lying about that is he? Lol, our kickers have sucked for sure, there's no denying that.


I don't care if our kickers are 0/100, as a HC you never say this kinda shite about your players. Especially when they don't even have a special teams coach.
Posted by Zchlsu
Twin Peaks, Washington
Member since Jan 2011
6025 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:13 pm to
Hey just saying an actual special teams coach might go a long ways helping out our kickers.
Posted by Fus0623
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2015
88694 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:13 pm to
This is not constructive criticism man. You never, NEVER say that your players suck and you need to go get better ones publicly
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 9:15 pm
Posted by Muriel
third ward
Member since Dec 2016
444 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:13 pm to
he sounds like Trump. No filter.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57864 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:14 pm to
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I don't care if our kickers are 0/100, as a HC you never say this kinda shite about your players. Especially when they don't even have a special teams coach.


+100
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43805 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:15 pm to
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He basically admitted that he can have no effect on the kicking game this year, and that recruiting is the only option. Great!


His new narrative seems to be nothing is fixable through coaching this year. "Nothing is my fault", in other words.
Posted by jdd48
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
22064 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:16 pm to
I've always said LSU needs to hire a PR firm yesterday. You can't continue to allow this kind of nonsense in official interaction with the press and the public. A good PR firm could help get this under control.

Moscona made a good point the other day. O wants to be more transparent than Miles, but there's a time when too much transparency is a bad thing. On top of that, I think O's apparent thin skin and emotions get the best of him too many times.
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 9:21 pm
Posted by chadr07
Pineville, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
7875 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:17 pm to
You are 100% right about that. O needs to look in the mirror next time he says he has a lack of anything on the team.
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
38405 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:18 pm to
Well...he's not totally wrong.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
24689 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:19 pm to
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Just don't have one on our roster


Are you FACKING KIDDING ME??

2017 LSU Football Roster

There are three players on that roster designed as "PK". There's a fricking super vote of confidence towards another of your position groups. First wideouts (no personnel to run spread sets). Next, both sides of the line (need to pick us up sum juco players this cycle). Now three PK's on the roster but we don't have a kicker? Sandwiched in the midst of player blame, there was also allusion to lack of coaching from his subordinates and position coaches.

I'm getting more pissed every time this guy says something, anything. You are in FACKING CHARGE OF LSU FOOTBALL, so stop pointing fingers.

I am often in charge of equipment designing and fabrication at my job. I get to pull one or two guys from the production side of the facility to help me as needed. But the job is mine to do. When something goes wrong, I hold my guys accountable in private while solely shouldering the blame to my superiors. And when something goes right, I redirect all praise to my guys. That's how the real world works. I'm no fantastic leader but I understand leadership. Our current head coach seems to have no clue.
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 9:23 pm
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37250 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:19 pm to
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His new narrative seems to be nothing is fixable through coaching this year. "Nothing is my fault", in other words.




I mean we do pay him not to coach, so I guess it makes some sense that coaching and gameplanning can't fix things and recruiting is the answer to every question.
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