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re: So no turning back, right?
Posted on 11/24/15 at 9:51 pm to kbro
Posted on 11/24/15 at 9:51 pm to kbro
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It is unfathomable to me that he would haphazardly go down this road
Are you familiar with his accomplishments to date?
The Duke Lacrosse Scandal?
Joe Alleva has hired 3 football coaches as AD (all at Duke), who combined for 59-143. Although I can't argue against David Cutcliffe (as Alleva was headed out the door, more or less, to LSU) - the first 2 posted winless seasons. That's bad, even for Duke football.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 9:52 pm to ChunkyLover54
quote:This will be the truest measure of how good/bad Miles is. Let's see who picks him up and how fast that happens and what happens in the ensuing 5 years. USC isn't the best measure of coaching character - Kiffin and Sarkisian were nothing to brag about. Being hired by USC would not be a merit badge, IMHO. And despite being the home of media darlings like USC, LA is not a football town.
Hell, afternoon drive in Phoenix today consisted of speculation of whether CLM would take USC job.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 9:52 pm to Ace Midnight
Holy shite, this deserves its own thread... If you don't start it, you're crazy... That was beautiful
Posted on 11/24/15 at 9:57 pm to Mr. Hangover
Any coach Will have 2-3 loss seasons. It's the lack of adapting, developing Qb's, and undisciplined unbalanced offense. U should listen to booger. He's got it right. Time to move on and not be scared of future
Posted on 11/24/15 at 9:57 pm to Ace Midnight
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Are you familiar with his accomplishments to date?
Yes, I've lived in NC since 1996.
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Joe Alleva has hired 3 football coaches as AD (all at Duke), who combined for 59-143
Duke is 100% a basketball school where football has been a wasteland between Spurrier and Cutcliffe, who Alleva hired.
If he can attract Cutcliffe to Duke think of who he might be able to attract to LSU with a Heisman candidate, a stellar recruiting class coming in (if we can retain it) and a truckload of money.
The alternative is staying with Les, Cam and Steele which makes me shudder. The guy has no fire whatsoever and we'll be fine w/o Les moving forward. Thank him for the memories and send him off with class and a huge Louisiana party.
Alleva has his career riding on this and he's got a great product to sell to someone.
This post was edited on 11/24/15 at 10:00 pm
Posted on 11/24/15 at 10:02 pm to kbro
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Joe Alleva has hired 3 football coaches as AD (all at Duke), who combined for 59-143. Although I can't argue against David Cutcliffe (as Alleva was headed out the door, more or less, to LSU) - the first 2 posted winless seasons. That's bad, even for Duke football.
I feel more than just Alleva will be in on the decision making process.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 10:08 pm to Chrome
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I feel more than just Alleva will be in on the decision making process.
Absolutely
Boosters likely cranked up the heat prompting Alleva to put feelers out to Jimbo or whoever and things are going on behind closed doors.
Alleva's arse is on the line big time, so you'd think he'll do everything in his power to get this right.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 10:09 pm to ChunkyLover54
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shite's getting real. I'll tolerate a great deal, but this all on Alleva now. He better have a plan.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 10:12 pm to ChunkyLover54
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Hell, afternoon drive in Phoenix today consisted of speculation of whether CLM would take USC job.
Oh they'd just love him out there.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 10:15 pm to ChunkyLover54
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The national media built this now trashes LSU fans for it.
The Rant created this. People bitching 24/7 got the local media to pay attention. Now the national drive-by sports media have picked up on it. They will swarm in, shoot up the place, then move the frick on down the road. LSU will be left to pick up the pieces, with a bunch of bullet holes all over the place. Won't be pretty at all.
Everybody said 9-3 or 8-4 record this season before Fournette got rolling with a healthy line and FBs. Now that we're exactly where we thought we'd be, everybody's bitching.
Yes, the offense is WAY too predictable. Yes, we have a gameplan that relies on physical domination, and get owned when a team can match up physically(Bama). Even weaker teams can see how to beat us but can't. The teams that aren't quite as big/strong/fast as us but can gameplan well enough beat us, sometimes soundly.
The man saw 9-6 as confirmation that his style works. Nothing that has occurred since has changed his mind. 1/9 emasculated him, and he has never recovered. He's bringing in top classes now to replace those who go to the NFL, and should have been given the chance to see it through. Fire him after next year.
Nope, that couldn't happen. Rantards are so panic stricken that we must fire the guy now, even without anybody really on the market to replace him. The ensuing dumpster fire is exactly what we deserve as spoiled fans.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 10:20 pm to Ace Midnight
Ace you left out the shite show of Pat Sullivan accepting the job but not being able to get out of his buyout with TCU and Dinardo was so desperate for the job he paid his own buyout from Vandy
Posted on 11/24/15 at 10:20 pm to SoulGlo
There won't be a coaching search. The deal is done. I really do like Miles but a change was due.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 10:22 pm to ChunkyLover54
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The national media built this now trashes LSU fans for it.
LSU did this to themselves.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 10:35 pm to Mr. Hangover
quote:Not gonna happen with the defensive players we have now and returning next year.
Say a 'mediocre' coach comes in here and wins a NC right off the bat with, yep, I'll say it MILES' players
Posted on 11/24/15 at 10:41 pm to ChunkyLover54
I agree 100% with the replacing of Les, but I disagree 100% with the way Aleva is letting this play out while he sits in silence as everything crumbles around him. This week has been a nightmare for the LSU program, and they better hit a home run with the hire or it will take a couple years for the program to recover from this.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 10:47 pm to bouefbengal
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Ace you left out the shite show of Pat Sullivan accepting the job but not being able to get out of his buyout with TCU and Dinardo was so desperate for the job he paid his own buyout from Vandy
All true - I also left off Spurrier's candidacy, as well as Shanahan and Del Rio's "tarmac" situation, etc.
I mean, let's face it - LSU does not have an institutional history of professional football coach replacements:
Dietzel left us for Army - of all places, then to USCe (then of the ACC). They hired Mac, which was the right call, but then didn't know how to handle it. Mac was a winner and loved LSU - that was enough for awhile - then the negas got really, really restless in 1973. Mac was never fully supported after that. He was too stubborn to quit - heck, he was only 56 when they fired him.
Bo Rein - who knows how good of a hire that was?
Stovall - I can't fault him - he didn't ask for the job, they drafted him. That was literally the best LSU could do under the circumstances (if one believes in Karma, there is some evidence right there).
Arnsparger - I don't know how he was picked, honestly. Objectively a good hire with great results, but it was risky. A strong professional pedigree, Arnsparger hadn't coached college ball in 20 years (Tulane, at that.)
Archer - great Xs and Os coach - way too young and there was no evidence he could run a team from the top (and he couldn't).
Hallman - disastrous decisionmaking on display here.
Dinardo - again, literally the best we could do after plans A through F fell through (and I feel this is happening now - everyone thinks this job is so attractive to coaches, but look how successful coaches are treated here during any time of crisis. And, for all our talk of "toughest stadium" - I've got news for y'all - every stadium is loud when the home team is doing well.)
Saban - wildest stroke of luck. Do you know who play "A" was in late 1999? Tommy fricking Tubberville - if he hadn't been a Sexton client, we might never have stumbled into Saban.
There were lots of top names tossed around in 2004/2005 - Bobby Petrino being a notable one. Saban recommended Nutt (which tells me he was hedging his bets against failing at Miami and either come back to replace Nutt or coach against him.) We were lucky to get Miles, to be honest.
We will be lucky to get Hermann or Fuentes. All this nonsense about Fisher, Chip Kelly, etc. is just that - nonsense.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 10:48 pm to Fight4LSU
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and they better hit a home run with the hire or it will take a couple years for the program to recover from this.
Or 10 years. 20, really, if you frick it badly enough.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 10:52 pm to Ace Midnight
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Or 10 years. 20, really, if you frick it badly enough.
Overdramatic much?
Posted on 11/24/15 at 10:59 pm to Circle K Beggar
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Overdramatic much?
Phillip J. Fulmer was 152-52 in 17 seasons at the University of Tennessee at Knoxville.
14 Top 25 finishes, 6 in the top 10, 3 in the top 5 and 1 championship - 15 bowl appearances.
But, more than that, in an increasingly competitive SEC East, he was first or second THIRTEEN times, including his penultimate year.
So, they fired him. Since then:
They are under .500
They are 1-2 in Bowls.
They were second in the East in the very first year (under Kiffin).
So, whoever we get, he has my support. I'm an LSU fan, not a member of any particular coach's cult. But, let's not pretend that any of this makes any sense, particularly how and when this is going down.
Please. Spare me that.
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