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Posted on 3/1/17 at 11:29 am to The Ostrich
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no but I still blame him for every season before that
You mean blame Miles for the seasons in which he won a National Championship , 2 conference championship, 3 SEC Western Division Titles and 2 BCS Bowl Victories and the 80% plus wins and the recruiting classes he brought him.
We ought to shoot him for that...don't we.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 11:30 am to axd9142a
can't we all just agree coach miles needed more time to install his system?
Posted on 3/1/17 at 11:30 am to knowingabyss
quote:I don't wonder or care.
And we wonder why the rest of the SEC rant hates our guts.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 11:35 am to Crawfish Anytime
You're right, some LSU fans won't give Les his credit. But some also don't give him his blame. And as much as l love Les you can't say he lifted the program more than Saban did. Saban raised this program and Miles stepped in to keep it elevated. He didn't do the elevating
Posted on 3/1/17 at 11:39 am to axd9142a
No fire Javi
Posted on 3/1/17 at 11:40 am to tigertex1992
To be fair, who was coaching LSU in the Bama game? I'm not a fan of Miles but I put the Bama and Florida loss on Orgeron.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 11:41 am to axd9142a
Lol
Let's get my buddy Rick in here and hash this out, shall we?
Let's get my buddy Rick in here and hash this out, shall we?
Posted on 3/1/17 at 11:44 am to axd9142a
Yes.
How thin is the backfield after Guice?
How experienced is the WR corp?
How deep are we with experienced linebackers?
Do we have a marquee LT?
I don't know if O will be answer. I think he was a solid choice after Herman. He sure saved a season that was going to spiral out of control.
The fact is the program was in decline with Miles and had been for several years.
However, if we stay healthy, O will exceed 8-5. He was saddled with two inexplicable losses before he assumed control in 2016.
How thin is the backfield after Guice?
How experienced is the WR corp?
How deep are we with experienced linebackers?
Do we have a marquee LT?
I don't know if O will be answer. I think he was a solid choice after Herman. He sure saved a season that was going to spiral out of control.
The fact is the program was in decline with Miles and had been for several years.
However, if we stay healthy, O will exceed 8-5. He was saddled with two inexplicable losses before he assumed control in 2016.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 11:46 am to axd9142a
I will blame that he is losing with Les Miles players...you know same shite we said about miles winning with sabans players 
Posted on 3/1/17 at 11:46 am to axd9142a
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So if Ed O goes 8-5 next year, will you guys still blame Les Miles
Not even a little.
That said it would take a complete meltdown for LSU to go 8-5 next year.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 11:46 am to Lord Orgeron
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The Miles-Train crowd wants to see LSU fail going forward just so they can say they were right about O and try and spin it as how Miles never should have been fired
you do realize there are ton of people that wanted Miles gone, but did not want us to hire O?
That's the camp i fall into.
Miles needed to be replaced. and he has been.
i was excited at what the future could hold for LSU with the right guy.
then Alleva hired O.
now i'm praying he's nowhere near as terrible as he was at Ole Miss. or that unlike in his two interim stints he can beat someone with half a pulse on defense.
the next time he does either of the above will be the first time in his life he's ever done it.
Im pulling like hell for the guy, i just don't have a ton of confidence that we can get to the next level with him.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 11:50 am to axd9142a
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axd9142a
Posted on 3/1/17 at 11:51 am to JohnnyU
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He sure saved a season that was going to spiral out of control.
I'm not so sure this is the case. I don't see Les losing again post-firing except to Alabama.
If we made the Sugar Bowl, he may well have lost to OU and wound up with the same record. But I see Les winning every game O won as HC and also beating Florida.
It's probably better that it played out the way it did with us getting a win against the team with the Heisman QB than a loss to OU in a major bowl.
Then again, Les had a decent all-time record against Stoops with vastly inferior teams, so it's not a given that we would have lost that game, if we had made it.
This post was edited on 3/1/17 at 11:52 am
Posted on 3/1/17 at 11:58 am to axd9142a
The truth is that Miles and company left a lot of holes in the roster at a lot of positions. Our QB problems are not going to solve themselves in one year. Hopefully they will build a system around DE that will work for him. I'm optimistic that CEO is on the right path, but it will take a little time. He may surprise us all and put it together this year. But, I'll be happy with anything 9-3 or better.
Year 2 for CEO and company will be the most difficult year IMO. An uneasy fan base looming over from Miles' tenure, the loss of Guise, starting a new QB, and losing a lot of key starters all over map. This year is gonna test us all. If those that are scheduled are having a mediocre to a down year, we might make it through this year with a respectable record.
Year 3 for CEO will be better than year 2 and hopefully you will see LSU trending upwards towards the playoffs.
This is how I see it happening. And I think as always you have to evaluate how you actually play, the plan, the execution, etc to really be fair.
Year 2 for CEO and company will be the most difficult year IMO. An uneasy fan base looming over from Miles' tenure, the loss of Guise, starting a new QB, and losing a lot of key starters all over map. This year is gonna test us all. If those that are scheduled are having a mediocre to a down year, we might make it through this year with a respectable record.
Year 3 for CEO will be better than year 2 and hopefully you will see LSU trending upwards towards the playoffs.
This is how I see it happening. And I think as always you have to evaluate how you actually play, the plan, the execution, etc to really be fair.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 11:58 am to axd9142a
No, I would blame Obama's shadow government.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:00 pm to JohnnyU
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He was saddled with two inexplicable losses before he assumed control in 2016
and then in his biggest test of the year, he did a spot on Les Miles impersonation.
Same game plan, same clock issues, same having to burn timeouts because we couldn't get a play called.
and before you say "he couldn't change the offense in only a few weeks?
bullshite!
he did against every other team not name Alabama on the schedule.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:01 pm to axd9142a
If he goes 11-2, will you still be here?
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:10 pm to LSU Patrick
I'll blame Bush! Is that still a thing??
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:10 pm to cra_cra
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The truth is that Miles and company left a lot of holes in the roster at a lot of positions.
He deserves some blame for this. He also deserves credit for running a clean program and refusing to get sucked in to the recruiting tactics employed by the Mississippi schools.
We lost two guys to OM and MSU in 2015 we really needed to solidify depth at those positions.
Now that it's out in the open that at one of these two "requested" impermissible benefits and his mother claimed he was offered money by the school he eventually signed with; while OM openly paid the family of the other by hiring his brother (technically not a violation in itself, but still shady AF), it's hard to blame Les for refusing to do what needed to be done if we wanted to sign either of those kids.
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