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re: So if Ed O goes 8-5 next year, will you guys still blame Les Miles
Posted on 3/1/17 at 3:45 pm to Mulat
Posted on 3/1/17 at 3:45 pm to Mulat
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Yeah, you believe that all you want
BELIEVE? Wait are you under the assumption that what i posted was mh opinion? Under Saban lsu lost at least 3 games every year but once. Miles set the elite lsu standard, not Nick Saban. Im sorry facts about miles' tenure doesnt fot your opinion of Miles but get over it. Les Miles took a shite Oklahoma State program that had 1 winning season in 13 years and had them having 4 straight winning seasons and winning 8& 9 games. He then came to a program with 1 top 5 finish in almost 2 decades and had as many top 5 finishes as 3 best previous coaches combined.
The above statements are facts.
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he should have been fired in 1/10/'12, period
Only a dumbfrick thats football ignorant would say a coach should be fored for losing a national title game. my god.
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Posted on 3/1/17 at 3:47 pm to Number 31
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of right now I agree with you 100%. My contention is that Saban going forward will retool his defense to be able to better match-up against the Clemsons of the world, and that will likely involve moving toward lighter, faster linebackers among other changes.
Agreed and some say he already has started to transition to smaller lbs than those huge jack lbs he had.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 4:11 pm to Mulat
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he should have been fired in 1/10/'12, period
Another clown like comment. What coach in the history of college football has ever been fired after leading his team to a NC game? Some of you guys post like you are retarded or 12 years old. Get over your butthurt and grow up.
LSU got fricked by having to beat a Saban Alabama team twice in the same year. While Alabama had to beat us only once in two games. Tell me what coach has beaten Alabama more Les since 2007?
Hate on Les all you want, but your comment only shows your retard level which appears to be off the charts.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 4:55 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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You dont coach for 11 years and have the 7th best win % in sec history without being a good coach
We didn’t win because of Les. We won because we were loaded. Now that gave the impression that Les was a good coach but he never was. Meanwhile, after time that reality each season became more and more obvious. Only people like you who never played football aren’t intelligent enough to see the obvious. To you Les Miles could do no wrong. He was a saint and a great coach. To people that played football, he was mediocre at best, which became more and more apparent until it could not be denied anymore.
It was the record and the false impression everyone had about Les Miles due to that record that kept up the recruiting. Les Miles was no great coach. He was a very lucky mediocre coach that was hired at the right place at the right time. LSU won despite Les Miles. Had we hired a good head coach instead of Les Miles in 2005, we probably would have won one or two more National Championships during that same span of time if not more.
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If lsu was so set up greatness why did saban lose 3 games in year 5?
Are you really that severely mentally handicapped? Damn son no wonder I see so many down votes thrown your way all the time. You’re brain damaged or something.
Well…let’s see, we won a national championship in 2003, and then 2004 was a rebuilding year, as we lost a ton of players off that National Championship team. You see Saban didn’t have the luxury of being handed over a championship team like Les Miles was handed over in 2005. He had to rebuild LSU and its facilities from the ground up after years of dysfunction. On top of that, our junior QB from the championship season the year before entered the draft so we were stuck with Marcus Randall as the quarterback, and Randall was not an SEC quality quarterback. That guy was awful because he constantly panicked at the most in opportune times. We had two redshirt freshmen QBs, but they weren’t ready yet. Had Matt Mauck not entered the NFL draft at the end of the previous year, we would have been far better off.
Why did Miles lose to Tennessee at home in 2005 after leading at half 21 – 0? To be honest, his victory at Arizona State the week before was a freaking miracle.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 5:23 pm to Space Cowboy
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We didn’t win because of Les. We won because we were loaded
You prove your lack of football knowldge with this post.
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Now that gave the impression that Les was a good coach but he never was.
Explain how Miles went to a shite Oklahoma State program that had 1 winning season in 13 years and had them winning 8&9 games. How did Oklahoma state go from getting recruiting classes in the 80's & 90's to having multiple top 25 classes?
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Meanwhile, after time that reality each season became more and more obvious
You mean like having a better win loss record the last 5 years than Saban's tenure? If lsu was so set up in 2005 why did the best coach of our generation lose 3 games in year 5?
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Only people like you who never played football aren’t intelligent enough to see the obvious.
I played football at a much higher level than you or anyone related to you. Try again.
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To you Les Miles could do no wrong
Miles did plenty wrong and he was justly fired. That in no way means he wasnt a good coach.
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To people that played football, he was mediocre at best, which became more and more apparent until it could not be denied anymore.
He was mediocre at best to football ignorant people that have no clue how hard it is to consistently win even 9 games every year. Do you realize tbat from 2009- 2013 only 4 programs in cfb won at least 9 games every year? Lsu was one of them. and again, i played football at a much higher level than you or anyone related to has
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t was the record and the false impression everyone had about Les Miles due to that record that kept up the recruiting
So why did miles walk into a shite class in 2005? You know that class that only had 13 signings? We shouldbe been loaded since lsu recruits itself. You see its posters like you that have no clue about lsu's history that give lsu fans a bad name. You truly believe lsu recruits itself.
Why was miles able to get multiple top 25 classes at a program that had been getting classes in the 80's and 90's at Oklahoma state?
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Les Miles was no great coach
Facts prove he was. Your proven ignorant opinion doesnt outweigh facts.
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He was a very lucky mediocre coach that was hired at the right place at the right time.
Why did he have better success tha programs that recruit just as well as lsu?
quote:your opinion thats proven ignorant.
LSU won despite Les Miles
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Had we hired a good head coach instead of Les Miles in 2005, we probably would have won one or two more National Championships during that same span of time if not more.
Yeah if we had hired Meyer,Saban ,or Harbaugh sure. No other coach is a sure bet.
Its amazing how football ignorant posters like you dont realize that even the best coaches in cfb(harbaugh,meyer, and Saban) lose to an inferior team every year, yet think Miles losing 2 or 3 is some massive failure. Nick Saban is considered the best coach ever, he has by far the most talent and he loses to an inferior team every year yet dumbasses like you think lesser coaches like Miles losing 2-3 games is some massive failure.
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Well…let’s see, we won a national championship in 2003, and then 2004 was a rebuilding year,
What? Rebuidling? Great programs reload. That what you claim saban left miles.
Look your opinion is that miles was a mediocre coach.
FACTS prove he was the most successful coach in lsu history.
Facts say he has the best win % inlsu history.
Facts say he the 7th best win % in sec history.
Facts say he has the #1 ooc win % in sec history.
Facts say during his tenure no program beat more ranked teams.
Facts say during his tenure no program was ranked in the top 25 more weeks.
Facts say he has the most top 25 finishes in lsu history.
Facts say he has the most top 20 finishes in lsu history.
Facts say he has the most top 15 finishes in lsu history.
Facts say he has the most top 10 finishes in lsu history.
Facts say he has the most top 5 finishes in lsu history.
HE ACCOMPLISHED ALL THOSE FACTS DURING THE MOST DOMINANT ERA OF SEC FOOTBALL EVER.
Im sure everyone on this planet would choose the above facts over the proven ignorant opinion of some dumbass named Space cowboy on an anonymous message board.
But hey im sure your opinion outwieghs facts somewhere, just not here little guy.
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Why did Miles lose to Tennessee at home in 2005 after leading at half 21 – 0?
Maybe it had something to do with the biggest natural disaster in US history throwing off practice. Just maybe.
Why did Nick Saban lose to 2 sunbelt teams with sec talent? Why does the best coach of our generation with by far the best talent, lose to an inferior team every year?
This post was edited on 3/1/17 at 5:27 pm
Posted on 3/1/17 at 5:28 pm to LSU Groupee
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LSU got fricked by having to beat a Saban Alabama team twice in the same year. While Alabama had to beat us only once in two games.
Exactly. Lsu beat Bama at home. The reward for that was having to beat a Georgia team, in Georgia, for the right to play bama again.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 5:30 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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2012 and 2014 he gave a chavis defense a lead with minute to go.
I was referring to the first game in 2012 (1/9)... I should have clarified that.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 5:38 pm to Number 31
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was referring to the first game in 2012 (1/9)... I should have clarified that.
Oh. Ive tried to remove that game from memory.
Why didnt we try something else. Its clear Saban practiced against the option.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 5:41 pm to axd9142a
downvote #100 
Posted on 3/1/17 at 5:41 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Thanks for posting this. It lets me know you have no clue about lsu football. You just said the lsu coach with the ONE OF THE BEST TENURES IN SEC HISTORY, let alone lsu history, was a bad hire. You sir dont understand football. Bottomline.
I do know this. I know that you are an idiot of mega proportions and I know that Les Miles inherited a national championship caliber team that had already been recruited for him by Nick Saban even before he arrived on campus, and I also know that LSU won anyway once Les Miles arrived on campus despite Les Miles mediocrity, and because LSU won despite Les Miles the impression created was that Les Miles was somehow a great coach, which, of course, helped to fuel recruiting, but nevertheless was never true. I mean look at the way we lost games in 2005, 2006, and 2007.
Furthermore, as the years went by, each year we continued to lose games we never should have lost, via mismanagement Les Miles blue games we never should have blown, LSU year in and year out was always undisciplined, and each year our offense always stunk to high heaven, yet we still won most of the games because of the high quality of players we were able to recruit due mostly to a false impression that Les Miles was a good coach, because very fortunately we were the only flagship university in the state of Louisiana and also because we were located right in the heart of a mecca for college prospects. I’m just praying that we got rid of Les Miles before it was too late.
Again, had we made a good hire in 2005, as opposed to hiring a mediocre Les Miles, during the same times span, LSU would have won one or two, if not more national championships.
Indeed, you’re obviously one of the few unhinged loons that believe that Les Miles was God’s gift to coaching in the country. Nonetheless, even though Les Miles applied for a ton of head coaching jobs, no one was stupid enough to touch that incompetent with a ten-foot poll. Despite, as you always say ad nauseam, his outstanding coaching record.
Everybody knew that Les Miles had just gotten lucky and landed the right job at the right time. If Nick Saban had never preceded Les Miles, and Les Miles had ended up being hired at LSU in 2005 anyway, he would have lasted three years at LSU at the most. No way could someone that mediocre have rebuilt LSU from the ground up. I mean the guy couldn’t even conduct a decent press conference, let alone communicate dynamically to his football team how to play football. Indeed, in all of the years I observed Les Miles closely, I never once observed him being competent as a football coach not one time.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 5:46 pm to Space Cowboy
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a good coach but he never was
This is so incredibly dumb. In his career at LSU, is there any coach who "outcoached" Miles more than Miles outcoached him (besides Saban)?
All those games against Florida we won because of coaching, 21 wins when trailing at the start of the fourth quarter, total dominance of every divisional opponent except Alabama... I could go on, but your mind is made up so what's the point?
Posted on 3/1/17 at 5:49 pm to Space Cowboy
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I do know this. I know that you are an idiot of mega proportions and I know that Les Miles inherited a national championship caliber team that had already been recruited for him by Nick Saban even before he arrived on campus, and I also know that LSU won anyway once Les Miles arrived on campus despite Les Miles mediocrity, and because LSU won despite Les Miles the impression created was that Les Miles was somehow a great coach, which, of course, helped to fuel recruiting, but nevertheless was never true. I mean look at the way we lost games in 2005, 2006, and 2007.
Youre proven ignorant opinion.
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FACTS prove he was the most successful coach in lsu history.
Facts say he has the best win % inlsu history.
Facts say he the 7th best win % in sec history.
Facts say he has the #1 ooc win % in sec history.
Facts say during his tenure no program beat more ranked teams.
Facts say during his tenure no program was ranked in the top 25 more weeks.
Facts say he has the most top 25 finishes in lsu history.
Facts say he has the most top 20 finishes in lsu history.
Facts say he has the most top 15 finishes in lsu history.
Facts say he has the most top 10 finishes in lsu history.
Facts say he has the most top 5 finishes in lsu history.
HE ACCOMPLISHED ALL THOSE FACTS DURING THE MOST DOMINANT ERA OF SEC FOOTBALL EVER
Facts.
Everyone on the planet would take the above facts over the proven ignorant opinion of some dumbass on an anonymous message board.
If Miles was so mediocre how did he turn a shite program into a respectable program?
Posted on 3/1/17 at 5:51 pm to Number 31
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All those games against Florida we won because of coaching, 21 wins when trailing at the start of the fourth quarter, total dominance of every divisional opponent except Alabama... I could go on, but your mind is made up so what's the poin
Posters like that just dont understand how hard it is to consistently win even 9 games every year. You just have to laugh at them and post facts. Miles time had come to an end but only a football ignorant person would say he was a bad hire at lsu.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 5:58 pm to Space Cowboy
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Space Cowboy
Miles was a great coach. He wasn't Nick Saban. But he beat him more than once. He beat multiple other natty winning coaches including Urban Meyer. He had some issues in areas, most importantly refusal to adapt to the times offensively. But he was a great coach. Never won less than 8 games in a span of 11 years. In the SEC West. If not for Saban, one of the best coaches ever, happening to be in the same division, Miles would have 1 maybe 2 more natties.
You sir are the idiot of mega proportions.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 6:03 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Posters like that just dont understand how hard it is to consistently win even 9 games every year.
Maybe he's just young and doesn't remember the Hallman Era.
As a long-time LSU fan and alum who's lived through the dark ages, I'll never take a 9 or 10 win season for granted.
I agree that it was time to move on, and hope to God that O can sustain it. I really wish Cam had "pursued other opportunities" after the 2015 season and a new OC brought in prior to 2016.
I'm cautiously optimistic going forward.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 6:04 pm to PurpleandGeauld
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He wasn't Nick Saban. But he beat him more than onc
In fact no coach has beaten Saban more at bama than Miles.
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He had some issues in areas, most importantly refusal to adapt to the times offensively. But he was a great coach. Never won less than 8 games in a span of 11 years. In the SEC West. If not for Saban, one of the best coaches ever, happening to be in the same division, Miles would have 1 maybe 2 more natties.
Spot on.
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You sir are the idiot of mega proportions.
Agreed.
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PurpleandGeauld
Post more. Need as many level headed lsu posters as possible on here.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 6:11 pm to Number 31
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agree that it was time to move on, and hope to God that O can sustain it. I really wish Cam had "pursued other opportunities" after the 2015 season and a new OC brought in prior to 2016.
I honestly blame f king for vetoing the move after the 2015 season and costing us a chance for a special 2016 season. If Miles is let go after 2015 then there is no way Alleva gives O the job and hires a coach that's qualified. I hope O has the best tenure in lsu history im just scared he will be too dependant on his coordinators and if we are successful then our coordinators will continously move on. Contrary to what many posters on here think, the best coaches are hands on on one side of the ball.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 6:21 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Look your opinion is that miles was a mediocre coach.
FACTS prove he was the most successful coach in lsu history.
Facts say he has the best win % inlsu history.
Facts say he the 7th best win % in sec history.
Facts say he has the #1 ooc win % in sec history.
Facts say during his tenure no program beat more ranked teams.
Facts say during his tenure no program was ranked in the top 25 more weeks.
Facts say he has the most top 25 finishes in lsu history.
Facts say he has the most top 20 finishes in lsu history.
Facts say he has the most top 15 finishes in lsu history.
Facts say he has the most top 10 finishes in lsu history.
Facts say he has the most top 5 finishes in lsu history.
HE ACCOMPLISHED ALL THOSE FACTS DURING THE MOST DOMINANT ERA OF SEC FOOTBALL EVER.
I'm not reading all the crap you spam day in and day out all day long like an idiot all the time to defend your idol, but nonetheless, even with that -- according to you -- world record career, why do you supposed that even though Les Miles applied for numerous jobs recently he was turned down for every last one of them?
In fact, no one was dumb enough like you to touch that damn loser with a ten-foot poll. Because unlike you, everyone knows what a shitty coach Les Miles really is. If Les Miles was 1/10th, as good as you make him out to be, he would have been scooped up in a New York second, but no one would touch that loser for even jobs that according to his coaching record he was way over qualified for. Believe it or not, you moron, not everyone is as mentally handicapped as you are.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 7:02 pm to PurpleandGeauld
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Miles was a great coach. He wasn't Nick Saban. But he beat him more than once. He beat multiple other natty winning coaches including Urban Meyer. He had some issues in areas, most importantly refusal to adapt to the times offensively. But he was a great coach. Never won less than 8 games in a span of 11 years. In the SEC West.
Actually, Nick Saban not only built Alabama into the greatest SEC team today, he also first built LSU into the second best overall SEC team today. If not for Nick Saban today, both Alabama and LSU would be nothing. Not to mention, that LSU won not because of Les Miles, but despite Les Miles. So go home and try to scrub those brown stains off your ugly face, because you look like crap.
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If not for Saban, one of the best coaches ever, happening to be in the same division, Miles would have 1 maybe 2 more natties.
Had LSU hired a decent head coach in 2005 instead of the mediocre Les Miles, in the same span of time, LSU would have won easily one or two more national championships if not more.
Meanwhile, if Les Miles is so damn spectacular as you two mentally handicapped morons claim he is, then why would no other team touch that loser with a ten-foot poll? According to you two lovebirds, Les Miles should have been instantly scooped up by another team. Yet he wasn’t. Apparently, most people aren’t as mentally deficient as you two lovebirds are. Oh well.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 7:06 pm to axd9142a
No - We'll blame Alleva for everything
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