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re: So encouraging to know that the Tigers will have a real Offense in '17
Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:31 am to TxTiger82
Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:31 am to TxTiger82
Also, with Les running things, we started making "talent" look mediocre. Wasted so many players. Now we have an OC who can maximize what he has. I'll take that any day.
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Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:34 am to JohnnyU
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Guice is a better back than Addai.
Maybe. Marginally. Addai was pretty damn good.
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I don't think we lack skill position players other than QB's.
You think our WRs stack up to Bowe, Davis, Doucet, and LaFell? I don't.
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I think you're overstating the superior athlete depth.
Give some examples, please. Our backup RBs (Williams, Brosette) are average, at best. We only have one viable TE (Moreau). We some potential at WR (Davis, Anderson), I'll give you that, but the younger guys need to step up.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:37 am to JohnnyU
Offensive line is wrecked right now from injuries. No backup QB experience. If our starters are healthy, my concern is at WR. But what happens when our starters start going down isn't going to be pretty.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:54 am to JohnnyU
Canada clearly knows what he's doing, is intense and is much, much > Cam.
And the Miles cultists were silenced after Les was unable to land a HC job after having a head start to do so after being canned so early in the season.
I was always behind Les because he was the coach and is clearly a stellar human being. But a decent coach at best, not a good or great one. Ran a clean program and kept the talent coming in, and I'm thankful.
I feel that we are very lucky that the program still sits where it does, that we haven't had the major crash after a high flight (see Nebraska, Miami).
Orgeron bringing in a creative and unpredictable OC, in Canada as well as retaining and securing Aranda, may be the best thing to happen to LSU in the last 9 seasons.
And the Miles cultists were silenced after Les was unable to land a HC job after having a head start to do so after being canned so early in the season.
I was always behind Les because he was the coach and is clearly a stellar human being. But a decent coach at best, not a good or great one. Ran a clean program and kept the talent coming in, and I'm thankful.
I feel that we are very lucky that the program still sits where it does, that we haven't had the major crash after a high flight (see Nebraska, Miami).
Orgeron bringing in a creative and unpredictable OC, in Canada as well as retaining and securing Aranda, may be the best thing to happen to LSU in the last 9 seasons.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 11:00 am to TxTiger82
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We only have one viable TE (Moreau)
Jacory Washington says hello. And he'll be saying hello to some accolades by season's end. Maybe the best receiving tight end in the last 20 years at LSU. Couldn't possibly thrive in Les' system. Is the absolute perfect fit in Canada's offense. Watch for JW to emerge and cause some mismatch nightmares for defenses.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 11:55 am to TigerAxeOK
Washington rode the pine for three years, getting passed up by both Moreau and Jeter, and now he is suddenly going to become the best receiving TE in school history?
Forgive me if I remain skeptical.
Forgive me if I remain skeptical.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 1:29 pm to TxTiger82
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Maybe. Marginally. Addai was pretty damn good.
You think our WRs stack up to Bowe, Davis, Doucet, and LaFell? I don't.
Give some examples, please. Our backup RBs (Williams, Brosette) are average, at best. We only have one viable TE (Moreau). We some potential at WR (Davis, Anderson), I'll give you that, but the younger guys need to step up.
I assume you realize that Joe Addai is statistically not in the same ball park as Guice. Guice had the 4th best rushing season in LSU history. He had two 250 yard games. He's only 700 yards behind Joe's 4 year career rushing totals after two seasons.
Hard to say about Bowe et al. They played in a more open offense. Bowe and Davis were unknowns after their fresh seasons. LSU's freshman WR class was loaded but we don't know their ceiling. However, they do not lack for talent.
The lack of backfield depth is partially on Miles and the coaching change. How many backs did Miles recruit in his last recruiting cycle? Personally I don't think we had great backs from 2008 until Fournette's arrival. Decent backs but no real headliners.
Believe what you want to believe.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 2:14 pm to JohnnyU
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The lack of backfield depth is partially on Miles and the coaching change. How many backs did Miles recruit in his last recruiting cycle? Personally I don't think we had great backs from 2008 until Fournette's arrival. Decent backs but no real headliners.
Jeremy Hill was a great college back.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 2:15 pm to Wind
Lol
Posted on 3/15/17 at 2:33 pm to sicboy
quote:SEC record setting crew Mett, Juice, OBJ and Hill all laughed and opened up the media guide to show you this.
Also, with Les running things, we started making "talent" look mediocre. Wasted so many players.
TD’S BY RUSHING AND PASSING
SEASON
1. 2007 64 (35 rush, 29 pass)
2. 2013 60 (37 rush, 23 pass)
3. 2011 56 (35 rush, 21 pass)
4. 2006 55 (25 rush, 30 pass)
quote:I would love to see his offense crack the top 4, but it's conjecture.
Now we have an OC who can maximize what he has
Posted on 3/15/17 at 2:43 pm to TigerFanNKaty
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There will be growing pains for sure. These guys have been trained for Miles ground and pound culture. With the limits on practice time I wouldn't expect a well oiled machine next year.
These guys dropped most of the Miles Philosophy after he was fired in September.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 2:50 pm to TxTiger82
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Forgive me if I remain skeptical
Absolutely. By all means, remain skeptical. Hell, I remain skeptical.
But Washington rode the pine for three years because he's a far better receiver than blocker. And we all know Les loved him some blocking TEs.
I just know that during his Nike Skills Challenges, dude ate everybody's lunch. Beat out every other competitor, including the 5* receivers, that entered the receiving challenges.
So maybe I spoke prematurely, and for that I apologize. What I meant to say, was... Predicting breakout season for Jacory Washington. He's waited in line long enough and now has an OC that will use him to his strengths- as an offensive weapon.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 5:24 pm to JohnnyU
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I realize that it's just two practices but you can sense the excitement and optimism of the players for Canada's methods
By the end of the season, half the rant will want the guy fired!
After 2013 many of our clowns wanted Cam as head coach. Two years later the same guys wanted him fired!
Posted on 3/15/17 at 8:20 pm to Hot Carl
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Jeremy Hill was a great college back.
My bad. How could i forget? Helluva back
Posted on 3/15/17 at 8:25 pm to JohnnyU
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the predictability,
You clearly dont watch other programs in cfb. Lsu under miles ran out of more formation than 95% of cfb you just don't watch those other programs the way you watch lsu. All those great spread offenses ran the same 12 plays over and over. Chip Kelly's entire playbook consists of 4 running plays.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 8:28 pm to Bmath
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These guys dropped most of the Miles Philosophy after he was fired in September.
I guess you missed the bama and Florida games. The difference was passing plays over the middle and we played Missouri,arky and Ole miss. Of those 3 teams the best running defense was 84th and gave up over 200 rushing yards per game.
Ole miss and Missouri were ranked 117th and 118th in opponents rushing yards per game.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 8:29 pm to sicboy
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Also, with Les running things, we started making "talent" look mediocre. Wasted so many players. Now we have an OC who can maximize what he has. I'll take that any day.
5 of the 8 most productive offenses in lsu history are miles coached teams. But hey dont let facts get in the way of you posting.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 8:34 pm to JohnnyU
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The lack of backfield depth is partially on Miles and the coaching change. How many backs did Miles recruit in his last recruiting cycle? Personally I don't think we had great backs from 2008 until Fournette's arrival. Decent backs but no real headliners.
Steven Ridley was 1st team all sec in 2010.
Ware was 2nd team all sec in 2011.
Scott was 1st team all sec in 2008.
He was on the 2009 team.
Jeremy hill was 1st team all sec in 2013 and had,at the time,the second best rushing season in lsu history and was setting the sec single season ypc record.
It like posters dont know that they can look this shite up before posting.
This post was edited on 3/15/17 at 8:36 pm
Posted on 3/15/17 at 8:41 pm to TxTiger82
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Hell, look at what he did at Ole Miss.
Are you sure you want us to do that?
Posted on 3/15/17 at 8:46 pm to TxTiger82
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I agree with you there. He's a great evaluator of talent and a great recruiter. Hell, look at what he did at Ole Miss. He brought in guys like Mike Wallace and BenJarvis Green-Ellis -- both from Louisiana and both overlooked by LSU.
I wonder if lsu can get to the mountain top with a great recruiter and great motivator. Sounds a lot like Les Miles.
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